Well said, Nicholas. Best, Andre From: tree of knowledge system discussion <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Nicholas Lattanzio <[log in to unmask]> Reply-To: tree of knowledge system discussion <[log in to unmask]> Date: Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 12:43 PM To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [EXT] wilber freke CAUTION: This email originated from outside of JMU. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. ________________________________ I actually just caught this email and watched the interview. Like you Andre, I was following their conversation in great depth and can't say I learned much, but still a great interview (Ken doesn't tend to look so lively since he broke his legs, but he looked good in this). I believe you and I have a difference of opinion when it comes to our ontologies, as I almost always concede to a nondual reality in discussions and my own logic. I definitely agree Wilber loses many people with his sort of cockiness. In his defense he mainly lives in his ILP world wherein he is pretty much worshipped, I can't imagine how hard it would be to be extroverted and have that kind of following without coming off as he does. As a fan of Wilber, I'd like to think that is the truest explanation. But while I'm sure it contributes I think the man is really just that sure of himself, a certainty that's been wielded by far worse hands. Regards, Nicholas G. Lattanzio, Psy.D. On Sun, Nov 22, 2020, 10:18 AM Marquis, Andre <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: CAUTION: This email originated from outside of JMU. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. ________________________________ Hey friend, I watched about the first 25 minutes. I am very familiar with what they were talking about but I still don’t like what comes off to me as a smug certainty about REALITY What was your experience of the interview? dre From: tree of knowledge system discussion <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of "Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Reply-To: tree of knowledge system discussion <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Date: Friday, November 20, 2020 at 4:37 PM To: "[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Subject: [EXT] wilber freke https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DmL8aL7fhyPI&d=DwIGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=ZMUSPDrhxIgyFkwiuTzg9JRZ_5eXV55fR-JCqzMUJfU&s=K4Ge-MH-WXc7_mvVfMttdQBQ0Y1cjMRbGoqhWlwJpZk&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DmL8aL7fhyPI&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=4nIBBNRljdIDKQ9Xxvfd4qmyiBJ-muo9FfswWnVb_4U&s=I-TSsk-HYH97gbBCbNYZknwY2fOeaEOfjPdhojm7z5o&e=> ___________________________________________ Gregg Henriques, Ph.D. Professor Department of Graduate Psychology 216 Johnston Hall MSC 7401 James Madison University Harrisonburg, VA 22807 (540) 568-7857 (phone) (540) 568-4747 (fax) Be that which enhances dignity and well-being with integrity. 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