Cool, thanks! On Fri, Apr 30, 2021, 1:11 PM michael kazanjian <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Jamie: > > My book, Unified Philosophy: Interdisciplinary Metaphysics, Ethics, and > Liberal Artsk 3rd edition, is not specifically on cultural evolution. > However, the second part of the first and remaining chapters deals with > evolution (change) alone, stabily oriented or directed evolution, dualism, > and stability alone. > > I go into Aristotle, Hegel, Teilhard, Whitehead, evaluation/process > thought, etc. > > Michael > > On Friday, April 30, 2021, 3:03:15 PM CDT, Jamie D <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > > *CAUTION: *This email originated from outside of JMU. Do not click links > or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is > safe. > ------------------------------ > Thanks, I'm seel8ng to collect all major books on cultural evolution, so > any suggestions would be appreciated. > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 1:25 PM James Tyler Carpenter < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > *CAUTION: *This email originated from outside of JMU. Do not click links > or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is > safe. > ------------------------------ > you may want to check out pre-verbal research as well: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.amazon.com_Landscape-2DMind-2DEvolution-2DArchaeology-2DThought-2Debook_dp_B005VSIYJA_ref-3Dmp-5Fs-5Fa-5F1-5F2-3Fdchild-3D1-26keywords-3DJohn-2BF.-2BHoffecker-2BLandscape-2Bof-2Bthe-2Bmind-26qid-3D1619727827-26sr-3D8-2D2&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=EugzTFhUb4GKH8mlHd7Eg1BI7Clr3gDdCt_9KqS9CiE&s=fHn3G0Wkp285XrcAADDck1tSPca53cZJ8F2Th_KJ678&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.amazon.com_Landscape-2DMind-2DEvolution-2DArchaeology-2DThought-2Debook_dp_B005VSIYJA_ref-3Dmp-5Fs-5Fa-5F1-5F2-3Fdchild-3D1-26keywords-3DJohn-2BF.-2BHoffecker-2BLandscape-2Bof-2Bthe-2Bmind-26qid-3D1619727827-26sr-3D8-2D2&d=DwMFAg&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=dEUCV2SBV14YMf5OAkcIU2GtdueIGZ5pH_wkxab0BcI&s=tCdBf5JMo6O2pmY6g-XsB2jEukB6spQf1tWRo-M7JF8&e=> > > > James Tyler Carpenter, PhD, FAACP > www.metispsych.com > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.metispsych.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=GbFM0niG6O1a0c4w904XDezCIlevdF8ikXbqfltp3QM&s=kwscfdoXASu2qEoxSoBfvyLxJC0YZ_zChS5xZbjsUSY&e=> > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.experts.com_Expert-2DWitnesses_search-3Fkeyword-3DClinical-2520psychology-26keywordsearchtype-3DAll-2520Words-26category-3DClinical-2520forensic-2520-26categorysearchtype-3DAny-2520Word-26name-3DJames-2520tyler-2520carpenter-26namesearchtype-3DAll-2520Words-26company-3DMetis-26companysearchtype-3DAll-2520Words-26address-3D-2520-26addresssearchtype-3DAll-2520Words-26state-3DMA-26statesearchtype-3DAny-2520Word-26country-3DALL-2520-28or-2520Choose-2520a-2520Country-29-26countrysearchtype-3DAll-2520Words-26page-3D1-26freshsearch-3D1&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=EugzTFhUb4GKH8mlHd7Eg1BI7Clr3gDdCt_9KqS9CiE&s=aexiKb8GGvs3wDaWtLKDOe28PW0hTMrRHF0be5A6mzk&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.experts.com_Expert-2DWitnesses_search-3Fkeyword-3DClinical-2520psychology-26keywordsearchtype-3DAll-2520Words-26category-3DClinical-2520forensic-2520-26categorysearchtype-3DAny-2520Word-26name-3DJames-2520tyler-2520carpenter-26namesearchtype-3DAll-2520Words-26company-3DMetis-26companysearchtype-3DAll-2520Words-26address-3D-2520-26addresssearchtype-3DAll-2520Words-26state-3DMA-26statesearchtype-3DAny-2520Word-26country-3DALL-2520-28or-2520Choose-2520a-2520Country-29-26countrysearchtype-3DAll-2520Words-26page-3D1-26freshsearch-3D1&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=GbFM0niG6O1a0c4w904XDezCIlevdF8ikXbqfltp3QM&s=OoK2e7pPkRtko5dWtlJr5ueSupjjMJDaiXQ60hppnAs&e=> > ------------------------------ > *From:* tree of knowledge system discussion < > [log in to unmask]> on behalf of Jamie D <[log in to unmask]> > *Sent:* Thursday, April 29, 2021 4:15:03 PM > *To:* [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> > *Subject:* Neanderthals, and evolution of language > > *CAUTION: *This email originated from outside of JMU. Do not click links > or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is > safe. > ------------------------------ > I'd like to share some observations that I think should be more salient to > those working to put together the big picture TOK. > > *Short version:* > 1. Upright posture > 2. tool use > 3.... then *with* language, Interdependence, intersubjectivity, we get > the explosion of cumulative culture. > 4, Around 100,000 years ago, via mutation of the voice box, modern humans > expand speech, thus thought, thus further accelerate cumulative culture, > giving us the edge to wipe out Neanderthals and other competition. > 5. The capacity for complex communication allows for enough of a stable > equilibrium within our own species that cooperation just barely out > competes the incentives of ego domination. > > *Long version: * > > Standing upright preceded both tool use and language, evident by > Australopithecus. > > Tool use preceded language, evident in some species today. > > The sole feature that makes humans unique, giving us our edge, is not > hands, tools, language, nor sheer intelligence,(which I argue isn't even a > real thing) but *cumulative cultural evolution - the integrated, > innovative crowd.* > > As Joseph Heinrich points out, ants are the only other creature with > similar amounts of biomass on the planet, and for similar reasons, but they > don't evolve culturally. > > Other species have *some* culture, but not cultural *evolution*. Their > culture has no capacity to evolve and accumulate complex arrangements of > concepts that can integrate and find new uses. > > I'm very curious to really understand from a first principles, systemic > view, how the 4th joint point emerged, because such a thorough > understanding would be applicable to almost anything we appreciate. > > Now, about Neanderthals: > > I just saw this video at random, > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_c9KnOjsc0g4&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=EugzTFhUb4GKH8mlHd7Eg1BI7Clr3gDdCt_9KqS9CiE&s=B3nt9CaDAS3GRfxbwj6a71KH_CLCzWKz7pMXU9OLuXM&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Furldefense.proofpoint.com-252Fv2-252Furl-253Fu-253Dhttps-2D3A-5F-5Fyoutu.be-5Fc9KnOjsc0g4-2526d-253DDwMFaQ-2526c-253DeLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn-5F5nBEmmeq0-2526r-253DHPo1IXYDhKClogP-2DUOpybo6Cfxxz-2DjIYBgjO2gOz4-2DA-2526m-253D002Nfh5nLSYdGczUnIADJfhguaySXAohIVohXvZG7T4-2526s-253DCNjdYu86w4R-2D1mSx-2DLfjYb-2DEhACq0QRKnOLzPoiiB-5Fw-2526e-253D-26data-3D04-257C01-257C-257Ca6495a4aa1eb4ce3b34c08d90b4b842f-257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa-257C1-257C0-257C637553241229512968-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C1000-26sdata-3DkxzEHKh2rYBlmVlF7hYqPmei0xqZ0AmKOUDFvqFRwr0-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFAg&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=dEUCV2SBV14YMf5OAkcIU2GtdueIGZ5pH_wkxab0BcI&s=KMRwTWR8IOJdXRgYuNdXXIzSLHUwtn3YvSxNIZF5hQI&e=> > > ...which describes how modern humans, unlike any other mammal, have a > voice box that lowers into the throat as we grow past infancy. > > Neanderthals, modern apes, and human babies all have a flat base of the > skull, and can breath and swallow nearly at the same time, but as humans > grow past their first year, our airway and foodway get crossed as our > larynx lowers into the throat. > > It makes sense that it would have taken quite a while for such a dangerous > adaptation to secure itself, but once it did, our capacity for cultural > evolution exploded. > > Neanderthals certainly had some language and cultural evolution, as they > were human, and so even did Australopithecus... But full blown linguistic > sophistication apparently didn't emerge until modern humans, 100,000 years > ago, which allowed us to essentially wipe out all the competition, and then > find an evolutionary equilibrium with groups of our own species that could > also speak (and thus think and reason) with equal sophistication. > > These observations pave the way for far greater resolution of the big > picture: > > 1. upright apes could face each other, and while managing heat more > effectively and long distance cooperative running and hunting, created the > space *and* demand for greater intersubjectivity. We looked each other in > the face with our torso and hands exposed. Our eyes grew white sclera to > show others where we looked. > (Genes for cooperation vs sociopathy have been in a race ever since, with > modern culture creating space for both.) > Imagine upright chimpanzees barking at each other, carrying stone blades, > working together to bring down a wounded buffalo, mostly reading each > other's minds as they grew up together, using vocalization for long-distant > and emotional communication. Also the hands being free and arms stretched > out before the visual field is a ripe situation to discover the utility of > representations. > > 2. As our discovery of representational utility expands, tool use expands, > and *demand* for culture begins to accumulate, altering the fitness > landscape that acts upon our genome. As culture gets a hold of increasing > utility, it becomes an invisible, Godlike force that grooms and gardens our > genes, selecting for genes favorable to cultural evolution, like Neoteny, > communication, and a deeper, more abstract "user interface" (a throwback to > Donald Hoffman)...which sort of IS culture - a virtual part of our genetic > fitness landscape, beginning a long journey of blurring the lines between > subjectivity and objectivity, changing us inside and outside. This > generates a number of trends that have remained constant: > 1. Neoteny > 2. White sclera, empathy, mind reading > 3. Demands of innovation > 4. widening cultural complexity and integration, escalator of reason, > expanding circle of compassion, etc... > 5. Sharing, Commodification, > 6. Interdependence, such that individual fitness depends almost > entirely on contributing to the group. > 7. *Stratification of Status Hierarchies, *such that we become more > sensitive to fitting in, fearful of what others might think, ....not to > mention denial and contempt of this very quality. To this day I argue we've > not reconciled ourselves to our own nature in this regard. > > 4. Homiids radiate throughout the world, but modern humans spring up with > greater capacity for cumulative culture and wipe out all competition, > finding stability within our own species. > > Lastly, > I'm interested in the future of groups, tribalism and such, as these are > so strongly built in that we often create distinct groups just for the > sport of competition, which does drive evolution via sport. > > Future subcultures that expand their capacity to cooperate and innovate > *together* will almost certainly make groups that don't face a threat of > becoming obsolete in the future. > However, the degree we are integrating and connecting should pull everyone > together, utilizing our extreme inclination to conform. > > It seems ego is the primary impetus to live and grow, so how could a world > ever be without ego? > > Jamie > > > > -- > -Jamie > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the > following link: > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252Flistserv.jmu.edu-252Fcgi-2Dbin-252Fwa-253FSUBED1-253DTOK-2DSOCIETY-2DL-2526A-253D1-26data-3D04-257C01-257C-257Ca6495a4aa1eb4ce3b34c08d90b4b842f-257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa-257C1-257C0-257C637553241229522916-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C1000-26sdata-3DQgw0LOnB8Ml6-252FeqrHNX3jtGBUYkcgBsn-252FcPxPqRavC4-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFAg&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=dEUCV2SBV14YMf5OAkcIU2GtdueIGZ5pH_wkxab0BcI&s=cYrnx3aQVm2EesqfdiKaVGDQtdwcsVRCJ27C4bn0pGw&e=> > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the > following link: > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the > following link: > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > ############################ To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the following link: http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1