I could not agree more. :-) / Lene On 30-05-2021 18:45, Michael Mascolo wrote: > *CAUTION: *This email originated from outside of JMU. Do not click > links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the > content is safe. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Hi All: > > So, it seems to me that there is some agreement between Lene an Nick — > that (a) biological sex exists; (b) that biological sex exists on a > spectrum (where bi-modality is understood as a type of spectrum); that > (c) gender has roots both in sex and culture (and thus that sex and > gender are distinct, but are not independent of each other). Am I > wrong about this level of agreement? > > It seems to me, then, that an important question becomes: When does > sex matter? When does gender matter? As far as I can tell, people on > the progressive left often seem to assert suggest that although sex > and gender both exist, gender trumps sex. People on the conservative > right, if they agree that gender exists at all, will suggest that sex > trumps gender. > > I suggest that gender, which I would suggest is a social identity, > does not matter when we are at a dinner party, negotiating a contract > at work, working on a collective project, governing, and so many other > things. Sex matters when it comes to understanding and supporting > biological processes, understanding and treating disease, procreating, > and other biological processes. > > Sex also matters in some social circles. It matters, for example, when > mtf transwomen compete in women’s sports. It matters when (and this > is a real case), a pre-surgery mtf transwoman demands genital waxing > from a female practitioners at a salon; and it even matters, I > suggest, in bathrooms — where the needs for many people who feel > uncomfortable with someone with opposite sex genitalia conflict with > the needs of trans individuals to live out their gender identity. > > What we need, I suggest, is to develop shared answers to these > difficult questions. The idea that gender trumps sex does not > acknowledge these issues as problems; it simply asserts that anyone > who understands these issues as problems is transphobic or the like. > > If sex and gender exist, and if gender and sex are not independent, > then one doesn’t trump the other. I suggest that we need to develop a > shared understanding of the contexts in which they matter and don’t > matter, and how they fit into the social life. > > My Best, > > Mike > > > > *Michael F. 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Do not click >> links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know >> the content is safe. >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> It would be a fair research question to ask about cultural >> differences in general. Otherwise what you're really asking is if >> they are identifying based on power structures, which conflate the >> issue and has more variables at hand. I would say we need focus more >> within culture and understanding those dynamics prior to thinking we >> can explain dynamics or preferences between cultures. >> >> Regards, >> >> Nicholas G. Lattanzio, Psy.D. >> >> On Sun, May 30, 2021, 11:04 AM Lene Rachel Andersen - Nordic Bildung >> <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >> >> *CAUTION: *This email originated from outside of JMU. Do not >> click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender >> and know the content is safe. >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> So: sex is bimodal; gender is an emergent property of life and >> mind through culture and has multiple directions, not just two? >> >> That makes sense. >> >> When people identify with a certain gender other than their sex, >> would it then be fair to ask if they would also identify with >> that gender in a different culture? Say, an American MtF >> transgender woman, would they also identify as a woman in, say, >> Saudi Arabia? >> >> / Lene >> >> On 30-05-2021 17:45, Nicholas Lattanzio wrote: >>> *CAUTION: *This email originated from outside of JMU. Do not >>> click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender >>> and know the content is safe. >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Okay so we agree on that first point about it being a spectrum, >>> so bimodal and no binary can transliterate pretty seamlessly >>> (though not totally) across the intersubjective epistemologies. >>> >>> The post-modern wisdom I mention is simply the central one, the >>> idea that there is a social construction of ideas that from the >>> top down and bottom up influence social structures and thus >>> directly effect the lives of each of us. I don't think anyone is >>> denying that, some want it to be more specified which is fine >>> although too much specification defeats the point. Which ties >>> into your other comment. I don't think that any idea of sex >>> needs to be changed. But to the degree that we discuss gender as >>> an emergent property of life and mind through culture (e.g., >>> that roles in culture are heavily influenced by one's sex), we >>> need to also discuss it as an emergent property of people in >>> culture, outside of/beyond its relationship to biological sex, >>> i.e., first-person, subjective,, phenomenal identity. And these >>> discussions cannot be properly represented on a bimodal >>> distrubition. It would require more dimensions. That's all I'm >>> saying. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Nicholas G. Lattanzio, Psy.D. >>> >>> On Sun, May 30, 2021, 4:36 AM Lene Rachel Andersen - Nordic >>> Bildung <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >>> >>> *CAUTION: *This email originated from outside of JMU. Do not >>> click links or open attachments unless you recognize the >>> sender and know the content is safe. >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Nicholas, >>> >>> The point made by saying it is bimodal is that it is a >>> spectrum, it is just very thinly populated in the middle. >>> >>> What is the postmodern wisdom that you find missing in bimodal? >>> >>> Yes, gender is rooted in both sex and culture, what I don't >>> understand is that the cultural gender stereotypes are so >>> sacred that the concept of sex needs to change. >>> >>> / Lene >>> >>> >>> On 29-05-2021 17:34, Nicholas Lattanzio wrote: >>>> *CAUTION: *This email originated from outside of JMU. Do >>>> not click links or open attachments unless you recognize >>>> the sender and know the content is safe. >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Lene, >>>> >>>> When I say it needs a meamodern expansion what I'm really >>>> saying is that a purely bimodal model is not metamodern and >>>> is a 'more evolved' modernist way of thinking that does not >>>> include much postmodern wisdom nor does it transcend >>>> anything but a binary notion of gender as it relates to sex. >>>> >>>> So I guess the way I would like to see it is to treat a >>>> bimodal distribution as a spectrum, because it is one, just >>>> a more precise spectrum than most. And further to >>>> incorporate additional levels such that the data that is >>>> distributed is allowed to re (self)organize when >>>> aspectualized from an epistemology that is not entirely >>>> 3rd-person empirical or 3rd-person systemic (i.e., upper >>>> and lower right Wilberian quadrants). An intersubjective >>>> bimodal distribution may be the best to conceptualize this >>>> as a 'meta' or 'quasi-modal' distrubition in that we can >>>> bimodaly observe gender as being rooted in sex but also in >>>> culture (lower right and lower left) and from there the >>>> lower right evolves (evolution) to more precise >>>> categorical, particularized (particle) descriptions of >>>> gender that respects upper right empiricism while the lower >>>> left involves (involution) a more diffuse wave like >>>> spectrum that is shaped with respect to upper left empiricism. >>>> >>>> By doing this we can have our cake and eat it too. >>>> Respecting measurement and description for proper >>>> academic/scientific explorations of gender as well as >>>> individual and culturally imbued experiences of gender. >>>> This is proper dialectical transcendence, both/and, wherein >>>> the measurement of the experience and the experience are >>>> allowed to retain their identities without compromise and >>>> also are better understood as relational dependent on each >>>> other versus one being the better way to approach the other. >>>> >>>> Arguments can be clearly framed by epistemology so that >>>> terminology is able to transliterate between quadrants >>>> without degradation of meaning (or at least it is >>>> mitigated). This is what makes it metamodern, because it >>>> facilitates postmodern and modern dialectics. >>>> >>>> Hope this follows as well as it does in my head, there's a >>>> bit of vision logic involved, sort of an "as above so >>>> below" type of thing. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Nicholas G. Lattanzio, Psy.D. >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 26, 2021, 8:11 AM Bradley H. Werrell, D.O. >>>> <[log in to unmask] >>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> *CAUTION: *This email originated from outside of JMU. >>>> Do not click links or open attachments unless you >>>> recognize the sender and know the content is safe. >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> How common is intersex? | Intersex Society of North >>>> America >>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__isna.org_faq_frequency_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=3ESU1e8VyobDbeNinQYX_SRFKEbOx811PkcTPa-aUiM&s=VFpR8U-GtUXRzWAgbDGq6h7sqBj4lmxBo2W_Jcj3fpA&e=> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> How common is intersex? | Intersex Society of North >>>> America >>>> >>>> To answer this question in an uncontroversial way, >>>> you’d have to first get everyone to agree on what >>>> counts as i... >>>> >>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__isna.org_faq_frequency_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=3ESU1e8VyobDbeNinQYX_SRFKEbOx811PkcTPa-aUiM&s=VFpR8U-GtUXRzWAgbDGq6h7sqBj4lmxBo2W_Jcj3fpA&e=> >>>> >>>> This little article suggests the complexity of the >>>> question of "how common is this (sexual ambiguity at >>>> birth)." Also demonstrates the very uncommon nature of >>>> it; which to me suggests the strong bimodal nature of >>>> the distribution. Just to pin it down a little. >>>> >>>> B >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Bradley H. Werrell, D.O. - This email is private and >>>> copyrighted by the author. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021, 06:00:50 AM MST, Lene >>>> Rachel Andersen - Nordic Bildung <[log in to unmask] >>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> *CAUTION: *This email originated from outside of JMU. >>>> Do not click links or open attachments unless you >>>> recognize the sender and know the content is safe. >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Hi Nicholas, >>>> >>>> Which aspect of metamodernity or metamodernism do you >>>> see relating to this issue and how? >>>> >>>> / Lene >>>> >>>> On 26-05-2021 14:02, Nicholas Lattanzio wrote: >>>>> *CAUTION: *This email originated from outside of JMU. >>>>> Do not click links or open attachments unless you >>>>> recognize the sender and know the content is safe. >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> Briefly looked at some of the links, most time on the >>>>> Reddit page which was very articulate but also quite >>>>> biased. I can readily accept the bimodal distribution >>>>> of gender as it pertains to its ontological roots in >>>>> sex, it is not a complete theory however in that it >>>>> essentially denies the value of the upper left, lived >>>>> experience, or gives it a go around at least. It is >>>>> that aspect that drives the whole gender bus. Lived >>>>> and felt experience cannot be reduced to measurement, >>>>> that is antithetical. >>>>> >>>>> A bimodal distribution is still a spectrum, just a >>>>> much more narrow spectrum, and it is a 2D >>>>> representation of what here needs to be at least 3D >>>>> (gender identity, expression/orientation, and sex are >>>>> not represented as equal variants). For example a >>>>> nonbinary individual falls right of this bimodal >>>>> spectrum. It needs a metamodern expansion otherwise >>>>> it's just another attempt at culturally bypassing gender. >>>>> >>>>> Just some initial thoughts. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Nicholas G. Lattanzio, Psy.D. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, May 26, 2021, 6:09 AM Henriques, Gregg - >>>>> henriqgx <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Folks, >>>>> >>>>> Given our discussion I Googled “bimodal” and >>>>> “gender” and found, perhaps not surprisingly, that >>>>> this point had been made in a few places already: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In a blog >>>>> >>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cadehildreth.com_gender-2Dspectrum_&d=DwIDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=Go53iDvE7EXxNoigb0E_gIwZjxnajMQSUZA6rxdwQnM&s=3CBVMwe2icuif0m53Arjj_WK-EafLSDK9h4NswGa4I4&e= >>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cadehildreth.com_gender-2Dspectrum_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=Lyy4i2W6XEQqFu3s380gZYTcaX7HAqvcbID9szo8NL4&s=9-omzo117JrFGt8ChaJYDzpdkql860btGWGBT3_VLrw&e=> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On reddit: >>>>> >>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.reddit.com_r_IAMALiberalFeminist_comments_aqsaw9_bimodal-5Fdistribution-5Fwhy-5Fgender-5Fis-5Fnot-5Fa-5Fspectrum_&d=DwIDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=Go53iDvE7EXxNoigb0E_gIwZjxnajMQSUZA6rxdwQnM&s=Kct4t5mioA19K1lZhWSZDjYLgzmWJegZxb2Pav8_YMw&e= >>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.reddit.com_r_IAMALiberalFeminist_comments_aqsaw9_bimodal-5Fdistribution-5Fwhy-5Fgender-5Fis-5Fnot-5Fa-5Fspectrum_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=Lyy4i2W6XEQqFu3s380gZYTcaX7HAqvcbID9szo8NL4&s=hwmouIky4raTnyxg1f9CADH3bJjfos35LseIZaevxro&e=> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On YouTube: >>>>> >>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DXLH-2Dy2nLocw&d=DwIDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=Go53iDvE7EXxNoigb0E_gIwZjxnajMQSUZA6rxdwQnM&s=mTmpoQrPDmhohKbBplBkm5m8_hEsDj0NPsBYgIWpIG4&e= >>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DXLH-2Dy2nLocw&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=Lyy4i2W6XEQqFu3s380gZYTcaX7HAqvcbID9szo8NL4&s=JtdbAk_EY427_uCNZQ35AllYcMqOihigeWpYe-MOUkY&e=> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> And has been noted on Psychology Today: >>>>> >>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_talking-2Dapes_201611_when-2Dsex-2Dand-2Dgender-2Ddon-2Dt-2Dmatch&d=DwIDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=Go53iDvE7EXxNoigb0E_gIwZjxnajMQSUZA6rxdwQnM&s=B1kiwJN2_36ZeCHozjJl88vLnGiU-w5hlcCkz24ZslQ&e= >>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_talking-2Dapes_201611_when-2Dsex-2Dand-2Dgender-2Ddon-2Dt-2Dmatch&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=Lyy4i2W6XEQqFu3s380gZYTcaX7HAqvcbID9szo8NL4&s=sMk7XomrNapdjT1_ABQsvyKhqhQnG4oELUV6FHbm1Ls&e=> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So, although it is not prominent, it is clearly >>>>> made by a number of folks. 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Futurist, economist, author & keynote speaker >> President of Nordic Bildung and co-founder of the European >> Bildung Network >> Full member of the Club of Rome >> *Nordic Bildung* >> Vermlandsgade 51, 2300 Copenhagen S, Denmark >> www.nordicbildung.org >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.nordicbildung.org&d=DwMDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=8OO7Emirz8nGQCtAiyfLUlPbTH0qxG6WSdsq9f1WJ3I&s=OPknXkXkphY30v5eRf-V0mpXwUqgQ90nXbRvE5OXpx0&e=> >> +45 28 96 42 40 >> >> ############################ >> >> To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: >> mailto:[log in to unmask] >> <mailto:mailto:[log in to unmask]> or >> click the following link: >> http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 >> <http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1> >> >> ############################ >> >> To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: >> mailto:[log in to unmask] >> 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