Yes, anything that can do computation, whether abstractly, or directly on phenomenal qualities, must eventually discover these kinds of possibilities, once it is sufficiently intelligent and reflectively self aware.

Emagine a color you have never experienced before, let's call it grue.
Let's say a particular neurotransmitter (call it NT-d) reacting in a synapse is what has this intrinsic grueness quality which can be directly apprehended.
Notice that any abstract description of this intrinsic grueness behavior of NT-d, reacting in a synapse, tells you nothing of what NT-d is qualitatively or phenomenally like.

So, now, ask your question, again: Is it possible for you, who has never apprehended gruness, to understand that you don't know what grueness is like?
Like Mary, you know everything about the intrinsic grueness behavior of NT-4, but there is still something you don't know about what that behavior of grueness is like.
For Emerson, all of his knowledge is the same way as that abstractly knowledge of grueness behavior for you.  Like you, Emerson can understand the fact that there is something he doesn't yet know, with all of his abstract knowledge.

The same is True for an abstract entity like Cmd Data in Start Trek.  He, abstractly, new there were emotional or phenomenal qualities he had never experienced before.
He had curiosity abstractly programmed into himself, so he sought out an "emotion chip" so he could, like Mary, finally directly apprehend phenomenal qualities, so he could know what all the emotional and phenomenal behavior was phenomenally like, not just know how it behaved.

Brent





















On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 11:29 PM Bruce Alderman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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Can something that isn’t conscious be “convinced”?

On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 9:05 PM Brent Allsop <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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See the transcript I had with Emerson, today, here: "I Convinced GPT-3 it Isn’t Conscious ."


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