“The edge of conflict” I’ve never heard of that term made explicit, but it’s an important element in my personal research on the evolution of culture. There *is* a trajectory of evolution, I contend (a teleology) It’s something like the *increasing integration of increasing complexity:* *The real number line.* I’ve suffered from the same concern for decades - struggling with cynicism. Now that I see life as a bloodsport, I choose to be a good sport. Life and death aren’t real either. They’re imaginary. That being said, the edge of conflict that makes *bloodsports* life’s meaning (which it is), will eventually, always, bump up against the moment the interests of the masses align in a satisfying (just) manner: Bands…Tribes….Kingdoms…..Parliaments……Democracy….. …Web-Based Collective Intelligence (the psychological integration of humanity, and it’s entire body of knowledge….broader and deeper, on, and on) On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 2:38 PM Victor MacGill <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > *CAUTION: *This email originated from outside of JMU. Do not click links > or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is > safe. > ------------------------------ > > I have thought about it from the point of view of the speed limit. I live > in New Zealand. We have an open road limit of 100 km/hr that results in > around 300 death per year. If we reduced the limit to 80Km or whatever, we > know we would reduce the road death, but actually we have determined that > 300 deaths a year is acceptable for the convenience of getting from place > to place. > > Another angle is that as numbers grow in a group, requisite variety > increases because there are more people with more skills, that creates more > and more opportunities for growth so we co-operate, form bigger groups for > the greater pay off, But, greater requisite variety also means greater > difference between the parts that means greater conflict. Groups grow to > the point of acceptable conflict - and the risk of falling into deep > conflict or violence, a point I call the edge of conflict. Any creature not > will to embrace an acceptable level of conflict will be out competed by > other creatures that will and lose fitness. > On 6/09/2021 9:16 am, Alexis Kenny wrote: > > *CAUTION: *This email originated from outside of JMU. Do not click links > or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is > safe. > ------------------------------ > All, > > A few months ago I came across a narrative that described an "invention" > that increased deaths and injuries within the population to a significant > degree and yet made things easier / more pleasant for nearly everyone. The > story ended with a sort of moral dilemma question - asking the reader if > they would accept the advantages of the invention even though it would mean > also accepting the injuries/deaths it caused. The reader then answers yes > or no and then the invention was named...it ends up being the automobile. > > Long story to a short question...does anyone have the actual narrative of > this moral dilemma? I cannot, for the life of me, find it online. I think > it would be a useful tool within certain group therapy contexts and would > love to be able to locate it. > > Many thanks! > > Warmly, > > Ali > > -- > *Alexis (Ali) Kenny*, PsyD, LP > Staff Psychologist > *LeaderWise > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.leaderwise.org_ali-2Dkenny&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=-LxYOQhF6RJOYCnJqruUgwlEUs8YzucqrwoHW3acRg8&s=pvr8sOwHhxf-tZRiVVWxPj8TnVuKfjfM4yif8-PBoZc&e=>* > email: [log in to unmask] > phone: 406.540.3411 > site: alexisckenny.wix.com/marriedinmission > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__alexisckenny.wix.com_marriedinmission&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=-LxYOQhF6RJOYCnJqruUgwlEUs8YzucqrwoHW3acRg8&s=jVL1okpkCDUZQwkjUBvXl85m2iIjZf3wZauCrTH3bts&e=> > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the > following link: > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > > -- > Victor MacGill PhDhttp://www.victormacgill.com <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.victormacgill.com&d=DwMDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=EJi7L8KhhCymAlo3nBnJzIFQzDAN9WLCQW-3JY40EAg&s=r9UYdIAxzAjBzEcQX2-dI8zoaAVe9J9Uo6HWY8mGZqI&e=> > Author of When the Dragon Stirs: Healing our Wounded lives through Fairy Stories, Myths and Legends > and Gonna Lay Down my Sword and Shield: A complexity perspective on human evolution from a Violent Past to a Compassionate Future > > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the > following link: > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > -- -Jamie ############################ To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the following link: http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1