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There is a personal side to this as well.

I have been trying "to find the others" but there is no online platform
that supports what I have in mind, at least I have not found one. The
closest to my vision are dating sites but they are for people looking for
romantic and sexual connections. I am looking for something that would
facilitate connections for many other purposes.

There are many people, like me, very critical of facebook and looking for a
better and different alternative. Discord has emerged but it too does not
meet my needs. Mighty Networks seems to be growing rapidly but it too lacks
the features I am looking for.

There is now growing discussion in the Game B community about building new
platforms but I am not active in those areas. My interest is only as a user
and I have no skills in the area of development. I do sense that there is a
lot of energy out there for something new.

On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 4:44 AM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <[log in to unmask]>
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> Many thanks for this, Brandon.
>
>
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> I can’t speak for Jordan, but for me the term “Rebel Alliance” was just
> what you say here. A pointer to this phenomena, placed in a Star Warsy
> frame that afforded some fun and clarity, but definitely not a thought out
> term that I would expect to stick and carry forward.
>
>
>
> Best,
> Gregg
>
>
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> *From:* theory of knowledge society discussion <
> [log in to unmask]> *On Behalf Of *Brandon Norgaard
> *Sent:* Monday, November 8, 2021 2:36 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: TOK Some Fun/Interesting Conversations
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> Gregg asked about this during our Emerge Gathering debrief meeting but I
> didn’t have time to give a full response.  There are quite a number of
> organizations, cooperatives, websites, email lists, Mighty Networks,
> Discords that are adjacent or somehow sympathetic.  One common thread is
> the recognition of the meta-crisis, or some aspect of it (political,
> economic, public health, educational, environmental, socio-cultural, and
> meaning).  Layman Pascal envisions a Venn-diagram with 3 partially
> overlapping circles for the most important intellectual movements:
> Integral, Metamodern, and GameB.  Some people and organizations might fall
> within one or two of these, and some all three.
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> Last summer, a few of us got together to try to figure out how we might
> leverage technology to understand what people and what organizations have
> what values, approaches, theories, and goals and what other people and
> organizations might be able to partner with them to reach those goals.  Who
> is doing what?  How do we categorize this?  Who is potentially connected to
> whom?  How good of a job is each organization doing toward their stated
> goals?
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> I figured we could have a website and app that would provide this
> information in the form of lists and tables and Venn-diagrams created on
> the fly.  Lene suggested a directory that people would have to pay a small
> fee periodically in order to keep their information searchable.  I agreed
> that would at least answer the question of how to begin to pay for such a
> system, I also figured it would be more robust and useable if it would
> automatically and pro-actively mine this data from a variety of sources.
> Kåre Wangel and I took this concept to Jim Rutt back in August and he said
> it would possibly be interesting to consider within his “Big Change
> Coalition”.  Kåre and I were hoping for an opportunity to present this idea
> to Rutt’s group (which I think includes the heavy hitters Gregg
> mentioned).  We haven’t got a response from him yet.  We’re both too busy
> to work on it ourselves, but we wanted to give the idea for others to run
> with it and see what they come up with.
>
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>
> As a start, Marcus Gabler put together this website and has a directory of
> many of the organizations
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mille-2Dplateaux.com_sensemaking-2Dphilosophy&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=5S57FhSIblq9UMYR2VH5e1UNB1yuWaijHYUY17kia_4&s=CYACMdMjiHnFddVKWFga_slgXq_2PMu2ycaW7QPAGko&e= 
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mille-2Dplateaux.com_sensemaking-2Dphilosophy&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=3NU27uSyZExZrpWe9cvRaYBKgaknJFstZs7fvBvOVsg&s=jGM8GuM333UPtUztylI7TlmYaE_LWUtjIbukfk4IWaE&e=>
> although it is not interactive nor queryable and has limited entries right
> now.  Layman also had a map he showed during his appearances on RW and The
> Stoa that offered a few examples of organizations and intellectual
> movements adjacent to Integral Theory https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_k6uUAS0wCCo-3Ft-3D1932&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=5S57FhSIblq9UMYR2VH5e1UNB1yuWaijHYUY17kia_4&s=Qf1r-c5VnpLn4B6JUY5PsRvIjR7trhQjRo_vcpnL2c4&e= 
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> I’m not sold on this term “Rebel Alliance”.  It sounds a bit Star Warsy,
> but this greater movement is likely to have different names that appeal to
> different people.
>
>
>
> Brandon
>
>
>
> *From:* theory of knowledge society discussion <
> [log in to unmask]> *On Behalf Of *Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 7, 2021 7:36 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: TOK Some Fun/Interesting Conversations
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> Thanks, Andrew.
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> I completely agree with you that we need this. The topic came up at some
> point and I recall folks mentioning that some people may have worked on
> this, but I did not follow up at the time and now the reference escapes me.
> If others know of this kind of thing, please share.
>
>
>
> When I built the UTOK website back in the summer of last year, I put up
> this page on related perspectives, which could be a start, but clearly is
> missing many possible pieces:
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.unifiedtheoryofknowledge.org_content_related-2Dperspectives&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=5S57FhSIblq9UMYR2VH5e1UNB1yuWaijHYUY17kia_4&s=BtAREsTsoC7IPxJ7VW_ePcIx29i3XW0yTRVbJ1OnoHE&e= 
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> Best,
>
> G
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> *Sent:* Sunday, November 7, 2021 9:50 AM
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> Hey Gregg,
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>
> Thanks for sending this. Does anyone know if someone has put together a
> “map of the Rebel Alliance” with key contributors and their specialties as
> well as resource links for websites/podcasts/ etc.? It would be great for
> newcomers that may have been behind a discourse boundary to see the various
> communities instead of having to slowly discover them one by one.
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> *From:* theory of knowledge society discussion <
> [log in to unmask]> *On Behalf Of *Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 7, 2021 7:42 AM
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> *Subject:* TOK Some Fun/Interesting Conversations
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> Hi Folks,
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>
>
>   Last week I had a ton of interesting conversations. I had the good
> fortune to connect with both Bonnitta Roy and Forrest Landry. Both are
> “heavy hitters” when it comes to this Metamodern/Game B/IDW/UTOK/Stoa/Rebel
> Wisdom/Integral world. From my vantage point, I felt able to readily “sync
> up” with both Bonnitta and Forrest and I am looking forward to continued
> conversations with them both. I also spoke with Michel Bauwens from the P2P
> Foundation, which will be coming out on Monday, and had a great
> conversation with Layman Pascal on UTOK’s frame for psychopathology, which
> will be released soon.
>
>
>
> I also hooked up with Jordan Hall, here:
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> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3D4oqxuac-5FzXY&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=5S57FhSIblq9UMYR2VH5e1UNB1yuWaijHYUY17kia_4&s=QOvdUCfxTyh1EgtC2wGEWFCf-4pnChdjtbhR1GoZ708&e= 
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> We covered a ton of ground, characterizing the above collection the “Rebel
> Alliance” in relationship to the techno-trans-humanist
> Facebook/Musk/Kurzweil metaverse-tech. We need a metapsych-tech that
> grounds us in the world rather than turning everyone/thing into digital AI.
> We frame our current cultural/metamodern sensibility as a “coherent
> integrated pluralism” as opposed to the chaotic fragmented pluralism of the
> modern-postmodern confusion.
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>
>
> I also hooked up with Paul Vanderklay, here:
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DRa2NpY5EZUE-26t-3D18s&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=5S57FhSIblq9UMYR2VH5e1UNB1yuWaijHYUY17kia_4&s=liqUvPhIZFollUaoTZvC1sOIhfDthp2vpszfPvZiswQ&e= 
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DRa2NpY5EZUE-26amp-3Bt-3D18s&d=DwQFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=M6TEQX49yXejutDsd4cQYiHzQ_6YmiKyyDDOTZ_MeSc&m=CmzOy76JXgC0CEuGeChFTSjEFPDRhYkH_Mk5YSzJByo&s=lBcCz3Jb6Oic7jnSjiDOWwFFXWwEeqrzRDXbfj7sbUQ&e=>
>
> Titled “A Scientifically Informed Religion After New-Atheism” it follows
> up on Paul’s conversation with John Vervaeke on the difference and relation
> between nontheism, classical theism, and common theism.
>
>
>
> My felt sense here is that there is  a hopeful, realistic vision of an
> emerging sensibility that allows us to resolve the Enlightenment Gap and
> obtain the proper relations between mind and matter and move from the
> modern-postmodern chaotic fragmented muddle in coherent integrated
> pluralistic vision that affords the widespread cultivation of wisdom
> energy.
>
>
>
> Best,
> Gregg
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