you’re very welcome, Nicholas. I share your enthusiasm. I would also keep in mind that pre-Qin philosophy and Zen, while compatible with Hegelian dialectic didn’t prevent their devolution into the chaos of Pearl Harbor and the Cultural Revolution and Tianamen Square, or the equally tragic occurrences in Europe and Russia and the US. Eastern thought has come around again numerous times in my 40 years of practice and began with the younger Freud-Jung-Spelrein in the prior era. 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Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. ________________________________ I love that more and more of these types of articles comparing and discussing the links between Eastern Wisdom and theories of psychology, they tend to overlap very nicely in general and some are nearly interchangeable in terms of intervention. Although it still amazes me the lack of understanding some of these papers have for Eastern Wisdom. More straightforward emic comparisons are necessary, most notably in that many of the more esoteric and phenomenological aspects of Eastern and in particular nondual theologies (e.g., Zen, Advaita Vedanta) are very difficult to translate through language and particularly through a naturalistic epistemology which is more than predominant in Western science as an institution. Thanks for sharing, this is the sort of philosophical underlabouring that is required for a truly integrated field. Regards, Nicholas G. 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