Hi Brandon, Good questions. I would say: * Revolution: tipping point cascading of events due to lack of organic development due to political incompetence * Evolution: distribution of agency among people, which allows them to adjust locally Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. John F. Kennedy / Lene On 02-12-2021 00:30, Brandon Norgaard wrote: > *CAUTION: *This email originated from outside of JMU. Do not click > links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the > content is safe. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > That’s awesome, thanks Lee! > > Some thoughts: > > * I can see how the vertical axis lines up with the Influence Matrix > in a way similar to how Waldamar explained in a graphic shared > with this list a few days ago, wherein he showed it was closely > related to the upper vs. lower quadrants of Integral Theory. This > individual vs. group dynamic keeps popping up in all kinds of places. > * It is unclear what is the crux of the distinction between > revolutionary and evolutionary approaches. We might start with > the overarching assumption among probably all of these approaches > that there is a very high likelihood of negative large-scale > impacts in the not-to-distant future. That assumption is baked > into the acknowledgement of the meta-crisis. I’m interpreting > your revolution vs. evolution dichotomy as hinging upon whether > people in that camp want active interventions in an effort to make > serious course-corrections or whether they want incremental change > through a series of mini-interventions that would be informed by > feedback from the prior mini-interventions. Evolutionary > approaches, I suppose, don’t have a grand strategy, or at least > there is an assumption that there are natural forces driving this > whole thing and the best we can do would be to make adjustments > that might have a large-scale impact down the line, but not in a > way we can foresee ahead of time. Is this accurate, partially > accurate? Or perhaps am I really just misinterpreting? > * Isn’t doomer defeatist more of an individual thing rather than > institutional? > * I find myself agreeing more so with the approaches closer to the > center and less with those further out in one direction or > another. As I see it, we need a more balanced approach. > > -Brandon > > *From:* theory of knowledge society discussion > <[log in to unmask]> *On Behalf Of *lee simplyquality.org > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 1, 2021 5:32 AM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* ToK: Plotting our Future > > *CAUTION: *This email originated from outside of JMU. Do not click > links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the > content is safe. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ToK Folk: > > I took a crack at plotting the concepts listed at > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikiversity.org_wiki_Level-5F5-5FResearch-5FCenter_Escaping-5FDiscontent&d=DwIDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=leiKqnNzRn1k-dT4VlG7nQxpnOHEWXeStagNYcLaPAg&s=wwKHUZv1hqTs5w4wHymzzZMOXdMZDlISHEMHc_QNOdk&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikiversity.org_wiki_Level-5F5-5FResearch-5FCenter_Escaping-5FDiscontent&d=DwMFAg&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=ZGlLUyQYhmS1e_AEhYTCtpeaEwId_wmwoICfGJUvzX8&s=lcZk2TUW_kidgjB9K5xi1sxohABiwWFuidO_-7sfdmA&e=> on > a grid, shown below. > > I used the dimensions of individual <-> institutional shown > vertically, and revolutions <-> evolution plotted horizontally. > > My placement of each concept is approximate at best. > > What do you think? > > Are the dimensions chosen the best for illuminating the differences in > the approaches? > > Is each approach properly placed? > > Does this analysis and display provide any insights? > > Thanks, > > Lee Beaumont > > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > <mailto:mailto:[log in to unmask]> or > click the following link: > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > <http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1> > > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > <mailto:mailto:[log in to unmask]> or > click the following link: > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > <http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1> > -- *Lene Rachel Andersen* Futurist, economist, author & keynote speaker President of Nordic Bildung and co-founder of the European Bildung Network Full member of the Club of Rome *Nordic Bildung* Vermlandsgade 51, 2300 Copenhagen S, Denmark www.nordicbildung.org +45 28 96 42 40 ############################ To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the following link: http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1