I also just watched the trailer and this does look really interesting. I plan on watching it for sure this weekend, assuming it is as stimulating as it appears to be (lol) I am also down for a conversation relating it to more metaphysical concepts with which the premise seems to be tied anyway. Regards, Nicholas G. Lattanzio, Psy.D. On Fri, Dec 3, 2021, 5:13 AM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > This did look interesting. > > > > Peter, can you share a bit about the kinds of “ontological questions” this > film raises? Magicians seem to manipulate our epistemological frames to > make it appear as if our ontologies are flawed, but as you said, they are > “lies,” in that there is no “real magic.” As such, I am now curious what > the message is. If you don’t want to spoil it, no problem. > > > Best, > > Gregg > > > > *From:* theory of knowledge society discussion < > [log in to unmask]> *On Behalf Of *Peter Lloyd Jones > *Sent:* Thursday, December 2, 2021 9:24 PM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: In & Of Itself > > > > *CAUTION: *This email originated from outside of JMU. Do not click links > or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is > safe. > ------------------------------ > > Hi Ali and all, > > My apologies. "Derek DelGaudio's In & Of Itself" is on Hulu, not Netflix. > > Thank you Ali for pointing that out. > > > > I had the same odd feeling after watching this film as I have after > watching most magicians, which I prefer to share after others have watched > the film. The film asks many great ontological questions but leaves me also > wondering about its tools of persuasion. > > Peter > > > > Peter Lloyd Jones > > 562-209-4080 > > [log in to unmask] > > > Sent by determined causes that no amount of will is able to thwart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 2, 2021, at 4:28 PM, Alexis Kenny <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > *CAUTION: *This email originated from outside of JMU. Do not click links > or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is > safe. > ------------------------------ > > Peter, > > > > Just watched the trailer you shared...sooooooooooo interesting. > > > > Does anyone want to share their Hulu account information with me so I can > watch it? Haha. > > > > Seems like this could be a film that a broad group would enjoy watching as > individuals and then maybe meeting up virtually to discuss...? > > > > Thanks for sharing! > > > > Warmly, > > > > Ali > > > > El mié, 1 dic 2021 a la(s) 20:33, Peter Lloyd Jones ( > [log in to unmask]) escribió: > > *CAUTION: *This email originated from outside of JMU. Do not click links > or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is > safe. > ------------------------------ > > I just viewed the film "Derek DelGaudio's In & Of Itself” on Netflix, and > wonder if others here might find it asking some compelling questions that > lean against many of the TOK discussions about identity, the self, > objectification, ontology… Viewing just the first monologue should reveal > to anyone if for them it’s worth watching the film to its end. > > > > This film isn’t a research paper but it does fulfill its mission to > entertain, confuse, inspire, deceive, and delight. It is a film of the > stage act of a magician, whose best trick is the audience itself. I am > attracted to magicians for likely the same reason as everyone else; we know > they are going to lie, we carefully watch for the lies, they lie, and we > believe whatever they want us to believe. > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.rottentomatoes.com_m_derek-5Fdelgaudios-5Fin-5Fand-5Fof-5Fitself&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=t47rR1LcIgltPScWy93YERY0RaYMPwBatFkFOI8FPmg&s=erxNVf4ERpDAFcBPVldci0KQJfCcKO0ioLjuCYxVNeM&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.rottentomatoes.com_m_derek-5Fdelgaudios-5Fin-5Fand-5Fof-5Fitself&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=rE3EgjfJUth1R58_JFTFbEjolV2j5vStLtLnEKX9zbk&s=J1tPrACXDPEpUQXjrymdrswQ9bnMNTlLbA-5LHoh2CM&e=> > > > > Peter Lloyd Jones > > 562-209-4080 > > [log in to unmask] > > > Sent by determined causes that no amount of will is able to thwart. > > > > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the > following link: > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > > > > > -- > > *Alexis (Ali) Kenny*, PsyD, LP > > Staff Psychologist > > *LeaderWise > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.leaderwise.org_ali-2Dkenny&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=gfDgNwleHmtOtZvA5P7y757DUffOA6FD8cwuecCINkU&s=PBGbCkny4vVrMo3f2j9Oh9H3u56b_BGZRpK04EnDdVs&e=>* > > email: [log in to unmask] > > phone: 406.540.3411 > > site: alexisckenny.wix.com/marriedinmission > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__alexisckenny.wix.com_marriedinmission&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=gfDgNwleHmtOtZvA5P7y757DUffOA6FD8cwuecCINkU&s=9Qy-7CGSYmHktH12DWXlBFHD_Pey6Wzae4UB9cYR1xo&e=> > > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the > following link: > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > > > > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the > following link: > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the > following link: > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > ############################ To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the following link: http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1