YES YES YES THANK YOU GREGG!

This is awesome, you can't imagine how exhilarating it was for me to read that, and your reference to Mooji is much appreciated and shows respect to probably the most intact Advaitist lineage (dating back to Ramana Maharshi). One thing I would like to highlight about this is that although from the perspective of the self stream they are two separate streams, the pure awareness (the spiritualist's ontological ground of being) stream is all that there really is.

Another way of thinking about this is consistent with an Advaitist framing of the phenomenon as an actor forgetting themselves in their act. We are all always the pure awareness stream, always, we cannot actually be anything else. However, as individualized focal points of awareness there is a tendency to forget the awareness in relation to its contents such that the epiphenomenal presence of "objects" that are "outside" of awareness becomes an inevitable belief (and eventually the desire for permanence-see J Krishnamurti). But we wouldn't be so confused about it if there were no contents to experience because there would be nothing to know and no one to know it, nothing can exist separate from awareness. This is the foundation of what I have regularly referred to as the Identity Crisis (my shifting the emphasis of JV's Meaning Crisis), and Nondual Empiricism, and further lies at the heart of any body-mind dilemma and reconciles the "apparent" differences between 1st and 3rd person empiricism. I could rant and rant on this for days because learning how to "live empirically" according to the principles of nondual empiricism is precisely the way we are going to get through this meta crisis.

Rob's Fundamental Shift is a powerful tool for framing and experientially realizing these life changing understandings, as is Mooji's Self-inquiry. In fact, most traditions in psychotherapy have their roots in these same concepts, as they were similarly discovered in early Western societies (e.g., Gnostics) and brought from the East (e.g., Alan Watts, CG Jung's trip to India). Brilliant article Gregg, I've been waiting for TOK to begin to integrate this and I am thrilled. I would love to contribute my expertise however possible, just let me know.

Regards,

Nicholas G. Lattanzio, Psy.D.

On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 1:50 PM michael kazanjian <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

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Hi Gregg:

As I read the public and private self, there comes to mind the statement from Kluckhohn and Murray's Personality:

"Every person is like everyone, like some others, like no one." Reminds me of Hillel: "If I am for myself alone, who am I; if I am not for myself, who will be for me?"

Thanks,

Best,

Michael M. Kazanjian

On Saturday, December 18, 2021, 01:45:26 PM CST, Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hi Folks,

I put up this PT blog today on two streams of consciousness, the Self Stream (I am) and the Pure Awareness Stream (Am Is).

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/theory-knowledge/202112/two-streams-conscious-awareness

Special thanks to Rob Scott for his work and guidance in this area,
G

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