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Peter, can you share a bit about the kinds of “ontological questions” this film raises? Magicians seem to manipulate our epistemological frames to make it appear as if our ontologies are flawed, but as you said, they are “lies,” in that there is no “real magic.” As such, I am now curious what the message is. If you don’t want to spoil it, no problem.
Best,Gregg
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Hi Ali and all,
My apologies. "Derek DelGaudio's In & Of Itself" is on Hulu, not Netflix.
Thank you Ali for pointing that out.
I had the same odd feeling after watching this film as I have after watching most magicians, which I prefer to share after others have watched the film. The film asks many great ontological questions but leaves me also wondering about its tools of persuasion.
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Peter,
Just watched the trailer you shared...sooooooooooo interesting.
Does anyone want to share their Hulu account information with me so I can watch it? Haha.
Seems like this could be a film that a broad group would enjoy watching as individuals and then maybe meeting up virtually to discuss...?
Thanks for sharing!
Warmly,
Ali
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I just viewed the film "Derek DelGaudio's In & Of Itself” on Netflix, and wonder if others here might find it asking some compelling questions that lean against many of the TOK discussions about identity, the self, objectification, ontology… Viewing just the first monologue should reveal to anyone if for them it’s worth watching the film to its end.
This film isn’t a research paper but it does fulfill its mission to entertain, confuse, inspire, deceive, and delight. It is a film of the stage act of a magician, whose best trick is the audience itself. I am attracted to magicians for likely the same reason as everyone else; we know they are going to lie, we carefully watch for the lies, they lie, and we believe whatever they want us to believe.
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