Gregg, I would love to see that expanded upon more within your work, because you're right it's there but it seems mostly represented as pathological or deviant/aberrant aspects of the core concepts making up the ToK versus stand alone entities on their own (i.e., the serpent vs the tree). And to that point, would there not be correspondent ontological levels that are 'so below' whereby processes of dysfunction and entropy evolve/diversify in ways uniquely destructive to each emergent joint point and floor? A thought means nothing to an atom or a cell and debatably a nervous system (depending on what you define a thought as), but thoughts as ideas of proposition or truth claims literally rule our lives. Like Mind3 is as chaotic and "messed up" as it is driven and goal-directed as embeded within culture contexts and situational and behavioral contingencies (i.e., "justifications" across levels). Not sure how clear that is. Regards, Nicholas G. Lattanzio, Psy.D. On Sun, Jan 9, 2022, 7:04 PM Victor MacGill <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > *CAUTION: *This email originated from outside of JMU. Do not click links > or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is > safe. > ------------------------------ > > > On [image: May be a cartoon of tree]10/01/2022 11:50 am, Alexis Kenny > wrote: > > *CAUTION: *This email originated from outside of JMU. Do not click links > or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is > safe. > ------------------------------ > Gregg and Greg, > > A similar though slightly different angle offered by Austrian poet, Rainer > Maria Rilke: > > “Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting > to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that > frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our > love.” > > Thanks for the perspectives, > > Ali > > El sáb, 8 ene 2022 a la(s) 05:19, Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx ( > [log in to unmask]) escribió: > >> Hi TOK Folks, >> >> >> >> Please check out Jewel Kinch-Thomas’ latest from the Jazz Leadership >> Project on “antagonistic cooperation,” which I think is a fascinating >> concept: >> >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.tuneintoleadership.com_blog_antagonistic-2Dcooperation-2Dadvancing-2Dthrough-2Dchallenge&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=TKxEFbMElAIK9Na8bW1e8ntmcQoOOmzBfIoXepb6Jys&s=OLlht_xw8Zga0Wg7HY3L03f-sUoBu95F0csNwaJBPx8&e= >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.tuneintoleadership.com_blog_antagonistic-2Dcooperation-2Dadvancing-2Dthrough-2Dchallenge&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=ktNeCZg2AKsibR-WQYMqiixc8fdcBsTKRX2Y2dzXJK0&s=Mi9Wjg0qy9O2hkl-FiHbWB70JIkyZWjyxIEn46sSVQs&e=> >> >> >> >> Among other things, It talks about how challenges are opportunities for >> growth, and at one point frames them as “dragons.” I like this frame >> especially. Folks sometimes ask me about the Garden, and whether it is too >> focused on the “light” and wisdom and positive being. When that comes up, I >> remind folks its origin, which is in the clinic room, facing human >> psychological suffering, angst, and crises in meaning and mental health. To >> which I then say, the dragon (or if you like, staying with the overall >> metaphor, the serpent) resides just behind the Tree of Life. It is there >> and central to the Garden’s essence. 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