Gregg, good day to you I just listened to the Tim Freke pod which reminded me that I had a question for you regarding the Bernardo Kastrup pod - How do you think about or integrate his theory into the Tree? It seems to be a level prior to the physics big bang origin point, and also above, within, around the Matter, Life, Mind, Culture tree. This fits with my comment regarding psyche, replacing Mind in the tree with Psyche (though I am not against small mind to greater MIND), and placing Mind above Culture as the realm of Katsrups consciousness origin as a non-dissociated Mind. Bohm would say Implicate Order, Bard talks about Sub-physics. Anyhow another great Pod Thanks Freke UTOKing https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3D0SBd31wqbaA&d=DwIBaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=GEaM6Ra4_ou7F9N9RRxpCWSAdlZLciF2npSoVyf2UQ4&s=aPjeord2KLM0azWTXCrkZWr8pwVFbTY4Ac4X-6BccmY&e= and my comment there "30:00 <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3D0SBd31wqbaA-26t-3D1800s&d=DwIBaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=GEaM6Ra4_ou7F9N9RRxpCWSAdlZLciF2npSoVyf2UQ4&s=3C4BKt_ENRFAXzc8k0DZkZb4UoQ2xh5Jk5yKAhaYBPM&e= > information theory of universe in evolution (so to speak), in the Cycles Theory of Ray Tomes the foundational substance of the Universe is an 'Ether' (field) which is vibrating and according to cycles theory the initial cycle/wave forms harmonics, and each of these form their own harmonics and over time a "downward causation" occurs whereby these harmonics, as in cymatics, power densities occur which define the structure of the Universe from the top down at once (the largest patterns are embedded in the structure of the cycles, each smaller harmonic being the mold for: cosmic web, super clusters, galaxies, star clusters, stars, planets, on down) in a phase change that manifests the particles and fields of the current Universe. In this theory the vibrations and harmonics are information which each particle absorbs producing Mass, these outward/inward vibrations also manifests a differential which we call gravity, this framing also comports with Machs theory of Inertia. This is a Universe that evolves. Within this theory of cycles is harmonics, which can be thought of as relationships and meaning; meaning is intrinsic to the relational foundation of this vibrating Universe. This can be also thought of as Bohms Implicate Explicate orders. The phase-change (the big roar, not the big bang) can be thought of as the dissociated mind theory of consciousness and Mind as the Universe. This is not a Panpsychism in that things/particles are not conscious as such but that the Universe is fundamentally built out of meaning, qualia, and relationship - consciousness is the Universe evolving towards higher levels of knowing itself, the Universe is evolving towards consciousness through creative evolution, it is not dying through entropy, it is becoming." Timothy Rollin Pickerill Business - https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.AudioVideoArts.com_&d=DwIBaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=GEaM6Ra4_ou7F9N9RRxpCWSAdlZLciF2npSoVyf2UQ4&s=KLZxj3HfqKniXFS3yB4zzmsu-7Y-4gBtWeqH64IrBHo&e= Photography - https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__instagram.com_pickerillphotography_&d=DwIBaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=GEaM6Ra4_ou7F9N9RRxpCWSAdlZLciF2npSoVyf2UQ4&s=xiij5cfcvP-mLQHUhFhV6o8pVUFMmWo9CPfEMnNjkfU&e= Art - https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.TR-2DPickerill.com_&d=DwIBaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=GEaM6Ra4_ou7F9N9RRxpCWSAdlZLciF2npSoVyf2UQ4&s=9RM8Eo4TFPvUZnnUYEhHsCzLbmE07OWAqFPnkQdWepA&e= 646-299-4173 (cell) ############################ To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the following link: http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1