Hello Gregg and all ~ 

I really really enjoyed this. I feel like Kastrup's view does afford much more meaning than the standard materialist view, as I understand it. I even had a nice little spiritual somatic experience while listening that helped me feel the back of my body more completely. Kastrup is really an interesting thinker, and generous of spirit in my opinion.

I have a couple questions. As a newbie to philosophy who had to look "ontology" up repeatedly a couple years ago, I hope these are not silly.

The first question is: I understood from the conversation that Kastrup's ontological theory was not about behavior but about the ground of being itself, and that science was about behavior. However, he also talks about the process of dissociation occurring in the universal consciousness (I forget what term he used) as we animals show up in the universe - there is some kind of folding, as he described to Vervaeke. Isn't this a description of behavior? Would that be a different definition of behavior if so? 

The second question is: Vervaeke pointed out in the seven-hour "debate" with Kastrup that what is known in psychology is that there are unconscious processes active in the psychological process of dissociation. If Kastrup points to dissociation of a single human consciousness as an example of the folding of a monistic conscious reality, isn't he in fact using an example that contains two "layers," which would result in a dualistic view if extrapolated to a universal level? 

Oh, and this leads to a third, also from Vervaeke, with Henriques in "Untangling the World Knot of Consciousness:" Defining reality as fundamental does not seem to explain why people seem to have a form of consciousness that we don't attribute to rocks or furniture. So this still doesn't seem to answer how our specific type of consciousness arises, or how it would do so in artificial general intelligence. Does it? 

I dunno, maybe I should just read Kastrup's book. But during the long talk with Vervaeke, I got the impression that he kind of ignored Vervaeke's point about dissociation, and so I am thinking maybe it's also good to get others' perspectives on it. 

Thanks much,
Rachel   

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 4:53 AM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hi TOK Folks,

  Here is the latest UTOKing episode:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG4nuOUeaDk

 

Episode 43: UTOKing with Bernardo Kastrup                                                  January 17, 2022

Title: Analytic Idealism                             

In Episode 43, Gregg welcomes Bernardo Kastrup. He is the executive director of the Essentia Foundation, and his work is leading the modern renaissance of metaphysical idealism, the notion that reality is essentially mental. He has doctoral degrees in philosophy and computer engineering, and he has authored many works and given many interviews delineating analytic idealism and why it affords the best ontological view. In this conversation, Bernardo provides an overview of analytic idealism, and he and Gregg explore its relation with UTOK. They demonstrate some key areas of alignment, especially in their shared critique of reductive physicalism, explore some overlap between Bernardo's concept of Mind-at-large and the Energy Information Implicate Order on the Tree of Knowledge System. They also riff on how UTOK frames metacognition, and Gregg introduces Justification Systems Theory to Bernardo and the two explore possible future domains in which the two systems might complement each other. 

Here is the episode on podbean. Here is Bernardo's homepage. 

 

 

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