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Someone, please clarify (for me) what MHC means.############################
On Jan 20, 2022, at 9:42 AM, Zachary Stein <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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You're on you something Brendan,
Many thinkershave been on the same scent.
Aside from e.g., Wilber'suse of Laszlo et alin *Sex, Ecology Spirtuality;*See also, for example,less well known workslike Elliot Jaques'*The Life and Behaviorof Living Organisms.*
Everyone has been asking:Can the whole of evolutionbe placed alonga single objective axisof directionality?
Multiple, level-specific "measures,"yes, ok, *and*there are deep structural isomorphismsacross/between levels.
Piaget & Co.can be read as suggestingthat what we call MHC(Fischer's Skill Levels)are a local manifestationof a cosmic evolutionary processoccuring at all levels:matter, life, and mind.
Quite a claim.
Problematic,but also illuminatingand insightful.
It is to say,aside from space, time, etcthere is another universally measurabledimension involving (forgive the jargon)*non-abirtary iterationsof complex emergenceand hierarchical integration*
"The many become one,and are increased by one."As Whitehead would say.
This is the many stepped"stairway" of evolutiongiving a sensethat things are "going somewhere"rather than just meandering andarbitrarily enduring through time.
But, of course,even if we accept all thatwhat does it buy us?
Does it buy us what we want?
I think it buys a great deal,some of it we want(some of it we don't know what to do with);But this second stepof "who cares/so what?"is not trivial.
zak
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Hi all,############################
Have been considering the ToK through the complexification lens and wondering what the specific quantitative metrics might be in each domain of complexification. Each new information system would complexify along its own trajectory, meaning the specific metric used to measure it would be different than the one before. Moreover, each metric would be dependent upon and relate to the ones on which it rests. Here's what I was playing with:
MATTER: Cosmic evolution – energy (metric: free energy rate density, Øm)
LIFE: Biological evolution – genetic information (metric: “physical [genomic] complexity”, C)
MIND: Consciousness evolution – nervous system integration (metric: integrated information, Ø)
CULTURE: Cultural evolution – linguistic justification systems (metric: hierarchical task complexity, MHC)
At the level of matter, I think the work of Eric Chaisson on cosmic evolution is helpful, and he uses the free energy rate density (Øm) as his metric.At the level of life, some preliminary searches yielded genomic complexity (C) as a potential metric, as according to the work of Adami, Ofria, and Collier (2003), but I suspect there is better/more recent work on measuring biological complexity.At the level of mind, I was wondering whether IIT would be the best fit, which uses the metric of Ø of increasing sentience.Finally, at the level of culture, I'm intrigued by the potential for the Model of Hierarchical Complexity to measure justification systems and other cultural phenomena.
Again, each new metric would map onto the other, such that Øm would increase as C increased as Ø increased as MHC increased. That's a hypothesis, anyway.
Perhaps I'm re-inventing the wheel here, so let me know if there's already work that's done this. But I wanted to hear people's perspectives on the prospect of identifying different complexity metrics for each unique level of the stack.
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