Victor,

If you're truly interested in Game B beyond a basic intro video, click the
hyperlink to the Wiki page in my last message.

Greg

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> Thanks I like your spin. It tried to look up what the buddha said to get
> it right but didn't find it, he said something like it is true to say
> reality is and reality is not but neither is it not true that reality is or
> is not.
> As i said before I havent looked closely at game b but the video seemed
> like a replay of game a promising utopia in 3 linear stages which i found
> very puzzling.
>
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> A few quick thoughts on the critique of "Game B" by Cadell Last:
>
>    - To use a quote from my friend Peter Limberg as a definition of "Game
>    B" and to contrast it with a more nuanced definition of "Dark Renaissance"
>    is stacking the deck in favor of the latter from the start. Why not quote
>    from the Game B Wiki
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.gameb.wiki_index.php-3Ftitle-3DGame-5FB&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=UzNEWcmzUHonx-12VRO5QX3FR_lIamEfiRb8331XRIo&s=avcCSEtVDCIvv3T5dpXiIpHoeM-_gxvncvb-962rAfA&e=>:
>     "Game B is a memetic tag that aggregates a myriad of visions,
>    projects and experiments that model potential future civilisational forms.
>    The flag on the hill for Game B is an anti-fragile, scalable, increasingly
>    omni-win-win civilisation. This is distinct from our current rivalrous Game
>    A civilisation that is replete with destructive externalities and power
>    asymmetries that produce existential risk. Yet Game B is not a prescriptive
>    ideology (or an ideology at all): while the eyes of Game B players may be
>    fixed on the same flag, the hills are multitudes and the flag sits atop
>    each, and no player individually is equipped to map a route in advance."
>
>
>    - A fundamental influence on Jordan Hall's conception of Game B (and
>    likely others) is James Carse's *Finite and Infinite Games: A Vision
>    of Life as Play and Possibility. *The implication is that Game A is
>    replete with Finite games whereas Game B, ideally, would be in Infinite
>    Game. In Carse's hands, infinite games are played for the purpose of
>    continuing the game (of life), whereas finite games are win-lose affairs.
>    That basic description, however, doesn't do justice to Carse's poetic
>    brilliance, which actually fulfills, in my view, the Dark Renaissance
>    folks' pointing to paradox as fundamental to what's needed next. It isn't
>    infinite games vs. finite game, as that would be a continuation of the
>    finite game! Infinite games transcend yet include finite games. It ain't
>    either-or, it's both/and, with an emphasis on the more inclusive territory
>    of the Infinite game. Yet Carse isn't mentioned in the critique.
>
>
>    - Wouldn't a true paradox, rather than being A=B (rather than A vs B),
>    be both A=B *and *A[image: image.png]B? (couldn't get the non-equal
>    sign to fit snugly in between A and B)
>
>
>    - In addition to "paradox," which many post-conventional models point
>    to as a key indicator, how about interdependent polarities? Would that not
>    be dialectical? That framing (or mapping, to point to the work of Barry
>    Johnson and Steve McIntosh) is yet another important one for a next-stage
>    perspective or orientation. It's a both-and view that attempts to manage
>    and leverage the tension between positive values. For instance, liberty *and
>    equality, *support *and* challenge, particular/local/rooted *and *
>    universal/planetary/cosmopolitan.
>
>
>    - I agree that competition and conflict may be necessary for the human
>    condition. I had that criticism of Daniel Schmachtenberger when I heard him
>    explain being "anti-rivalrous." So an interdependent polarity such as *antagonistic
>    cooperation*, or Zak Stein's beautiful reframe of that same polarity,
>    "cooperative opposition" (which he mentions in this wonderful six-minute
>    video
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_0UURwXcMMCc&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=UzNEWcmzUHonx-12VRO5QX3FR_lIamEfiRb8331XRIo&s=9ruMaYooxdQcVhGPb2WVvqCdbTK_ya8b3xP3NuS7pys&e=>),
>    would be appropriate. Both/and, then generating the emergence of a higher
>    octave of understanding and embodied action is a fruitful goal for "what's
>    next."
>
>
>    - The focus on art is crucial, and the conversation among Daniel S.,
>    Jim Rutt, Tyson Yunkaporta, and Jordan Hall after the video that sparked
>    this thread pointed to that lacunae in Game B theorizing. I have much more
>    to say on that front, but won't go there now.
>
>
>    - Masculine and feminine qualities are indeed fundamental qualities,
>    again, as an interdependent polarity.
>
> So, no, Game B isn't the b-all and end all, for sure. Yet it attempts to
> point us in the right direction, which is, apparently what the Dark
> Renaissance is attempting also.
>
> Greg Thomas
>
>
>
>
>
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>> I found this piece that makes the points I was trying to make very
>> clearly.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Game A/B
>> Enter Paradoxical Reality
>>
>> Cadell Last
>> Feb 3
>> 3
>> 2
>>
>> Yesterday, Alexander Bard, Owen Cox, Raven Connolly and I entered The
>> Stoa to respond to the video/dialogos around Game B, from a “Dark
>> Renaissance” perspective. You can find our video here: Game B: A Dark
>> Renaissance Response.
>>
>> Here I would just like to reaffirm in written form some of the basic
>> points I wanted to make in the video, both for clarity and in openness to
>> future dialogue.
>>
>> First, to set the scene, I want to offer two quotes. The first is a
>> definition of Game B from Peter Limberg, and the other a definition of the
>> Dark Renaissance from myself. According to Limberg, Game B (inclusive of
>> its relation to Game A) is:
>>
>> “Game A is the collective game that the world is playing, that will come
>> to an end, if we continue to play it, we will self-terminate as a species,
>> Game B is a new game, that we don’t know what it looks like, but their is a
>> glimpse or a sense of what it could be.”
>>
>> In contrast, the Dark Renaissance is:
>>
>> “The Dark Renaissance is a broader potential artistic, philosophical and
>> religious movement which seeks to reveal, affirm, confront, transform the
>> more disturbing aspects of the human condition as the only way to organize
>> society truthfully.”
>>
>> These two definitions are not necessarily in a zero-sum competition.
>> However, there are some dimensions of the narrative structure of Game B,
>> which from my point of view, need serious philosophical reflection and
>> reorientation, in light of the ideas of the Dark Renaissance.
>>
>> The first is that — and as I would like to make clear is my main point —
>> that the very logical structure of “Game A versus Game B” is itself
>> problematic as a starting point. This sets up thinking for an ideological
>> trap. We often set up simplistic narratives and oppositions, whether
>> consciously or unconsciously, to bring thinking to an end in an impossibly
>> clear and certain identity.
>>
>> Whereas the definition of Game B points towards an openness and an
>> uncertainty (i.e. “a new game, that we don’t know what it looks like, but
>> their is a glimpse or a sense of what it could be”), it does this against
>> the backdrop of a certain and known enemy (i.e. “Game A is the collective
>> game the world is playing, that will come to an end, if we continue playing
>> it, we will self-terminate as a species” etc.). Consequently, as soon as
>> Game B attempts to represent itself to a popular or a broader audience, as
>> it did in “Game B: An Initiation”, it falls into the trap of a utopian
>> reification of an other identity. The A versus B structure is simply too
>> simple:
>>
>> Game A = bad, i.e. you are parasitized, competitive,
>> far-from-equilibrium, separated, exclusive, rivalrous, dominating, lead to
>> certain death
>>
>> Game B = good, i.e. you are non-parasitized (wise/wisdom centers open?),
>> cooperative, thriving, whole, no longer excluding or dominating or rivalrous
>>
>> What if we are all parasitized from within? What if we cannot get rid of
>> competition? What if our society is inherently far-from-equilibrium? What
>> if separation, exclusion, rivalry, domination and death are features of our
>> existence, and not bugs-in-the-Game-A-machine?
>>
>> In any case, what happens very quickly with “A vs. B” thinking is that
>> you fall into the basic temporality of ideology that has recurred and
>> recurred in many different conceptual frameworks:
>>
>> We were in a state of wholeness (oneness), and we need to return to a
>> state of wholeness (oneness)
>>
>> This basic temporality gains its legitimacy in the form of a simplified
>> enemy-obstacle, that emerged to break the unity, and that needs to be
>> banished to reclaim the unity:
>>
>> Game A is the game “everyone is playing”, it is the source of all our
>> troubles, and once we get rid of it, we will be in wholeness/harmony
>>
>> Such a structure of A vs. B is the opposite of real thinking, and the
>> opposite of what is needed to approach the very real need to (maybe) think
>> “a new game, that we don’t know what it looks like, but their is a glimpse
>> or a sense of what it could be”
>>
>> In order to really think such a “new game” where we “don’t know” but
>> “sense what it could be”, I would claim we need to learn dialectical
>> thinking, and we need to learn how to apply this mode of thinking, to our
>> unconscious thinking. Dialectical thinking operates on the logic of A=B.
>> That is, dialectical thinking operates on the logic that embodies
>> self-referential paradox. In applying dialectical thinking to unconscious
>> thinking, we are willing to bring our thought in relation to the knowledge
>> in ourself that we do not know, but which shapes or overdetermines our
>> entire horizon of political action. In other words, we bring our thought to
>> the fact that we are split from within, by a conscious and an unconscious
>> knowing, and often this split reveals opposite desires and drives, which
>> are in turn, often, irreconcilable and contradictory.
>>
>> From this point of view, we are not in the temporality of “now we are in
>> Game A, but soon we will be saved in Game B”; we are instead in the
>> temporality of “reality is fundamentally paradoxical and split within
>> itself: A=B”. From this point of view, we need to educate the types of
>> minds that are capable of embodying and working with paradox, first within
>> themselves, and secondly, within the intimate networks and communities that
>> they build with others. What is at stake here is nothing like a utopian
>> emancipatory space free of conflict, rivalry, separation, and so forth; but
>> the “potential” for a “broader artistic, philosophical and religious
>> movement which seeks to reveal, affirm, confront, transform the more
>> disturbing aspects of the human condition as the only way to organize
>> society truthfully.”
>>
>> In order to truly become an artist, or a philosopher or a religious
>> subject, one must be capable of being the type of knower that can embody
>> paradox, first within oneself, and second within the intimate networks and
>> communities, that one builds with others. This demands the logic of A=B,
>> not A vs. B. This should be applied to this very article and this very
>> “Dark Renaissance critique of Game B”. We are not here saying that the
>> basic motive or desire of Game B is inherently wrong. Not at all. We as a
>> species really are approaching global problems that may involve
>> self-terminating dimensions. However, we are saying that there needs to be
>> deeper self-reflection, deeper recognition of paradox, to raise the
>> possibilities that we cultivate the form of knowing to enter a new world.
>> This form of knowing is a form of knowing that cannot “jump to the end”
>> with the vision of a “utopian wholeness”, but rather must “tarry with the
>> thing”, which is the same thing as saying it must “work contradiction of
>> its present moment”. What is essential here is that this tarrying with and
>> working contradiction involves the irreducibility of intimate social
>> reality. The typical intellect, the type of intellect that sets up Game A
>> vs. Game B dynamics, does this precisely to avoid the irreducibility of
>> intimate social reality, where we find the irreducibility of A=B.
>>
>> To this end, I want to simply echo some of the core points that my
>> “partners in dialogos” emphasized throughout their critique of Game B, as
>> they relate to this dimension of staying with paradox and contradiction of
>> identity.
>>
>> Raven Connolly started off the session by making the core point that you
>> cannot eliminate conflict from life. She warns that if you do, you end up
>> with a lifeless world without the conditions of possibility for art,
>> without the conditions of possibility to build the type of characters that
>> can really withstand the real complexity of the world, and without the
>> conditions of possibility to recognize our drives and incompleteness. She
>> would later go on to emphasize that this drive and this incompleteness lies
>> at the very heart of our sexual identities, where our very root-origin
>> travels through us, from the genitals to the mind. How do we really channel
>> this energy, in its enormous power? In its seemingly endless capacity for
>> transformation?
>>
>> Owen Cox started off the session by making the core (Nietzschean) point
>> that we are a tension between “Apollonian” and “Dionysian” drives, and that
>> the Apollonian drive has a tendency to reify a perfect political order at
>> the expense of the Dionysian drive. Here, in this very tension, one could
>> argue the real impulses and capacities for art emerge in the first place
>> (and not from wholeness). When one accepts the tension between the
>> Apollonian-Dionysian drives, we end up with a much more paradoxical
>> character, an A=B character, where sex, power, conflict, cannot be
>> eliminated, but rather worked with, to mature our characters and our
>> capacities to deal with the real complexity of the world (to connect this
>> with Raven’s main point). Owen later makes the point that, intellectuals
>> should take more time to think the very edge of these zones of tension,
>> where tantric forms of subjectivity and organizations, disrupt their
>> identities from within their inner masculine and feminine, and create new
>> artistic modes of being.
>>
>> Alexander Bard started off the session by framing this same tension with
>> the language of the “Boy Pharaoh” and the “Pillar Saint”. The Boy Pharaoh
>> is the man who loves his body, but hates his mind (from Muhammed to
>> Hitler); the Pillar Saint is the man who loves his mind, but hates his body
>> (from Plato to Zuckerberg). For Bard, it is the failures of these types of
>> men that have led to the reaction to a cynically nihilistic world
>> (“post-modernism”), which cannot really think the masculine, which is not
>> capable of navigating the split between body and mind. For Bard, “liminal
>> spaces” like metamodernism or integralism, are capable of moving from
>> cynical nihilism to ironic nihilism, but cannot take the necessary next
>> step, that is: affirmative nihilism. Affirmative nihilism would be the
>> emergence of the men who can recognize within themselves the tendency to
>> either become “Boy Pharaoh” or “Pillar Saint”, and mature it (reveal,
>> affirm, confront, transform it). In this maturation they can rather admire
>> what they lack. For the man who loves his body but hates the mind, he would
>> be able to admire the genius of the smarter men; for the man who loves his
>> mind but hates his body, he would be able to admire the talent and force of
>> the more physical men.
>>
>> For my part, it is confronting these main points from Raven, Owen and
>> Bard, that force the emergence of intellects that can ultimately confront
>> sexual division (first within themselves, and then in the society at
>> large). As Bard warns, this is necessary to prevent the continued
>> escalation of the gender wars. I think what underlies all of the “meta”
>> intellectual spaces is the inability (or the simple unwillingness) to think
>> the real of sexual division (for more, see: Sexual Division, A Problem in
>> Ontology). As Bard also suggests, perhaps the real problem of our time is
>> not global warming or atomic weapons, but the very rift at the heart of our
>> social order. What we see is an increasing inability to navigate sexual
>> division. Confronting sexual division also means confronting A=B dynamics,
>> where we have the appearance of two irreducible opposites which must be
>> thought together as a paradox. The literal reproduction of the species and
>> the maturation of the species, lies at this very divisive locus.
>>
>> We cannot eliminate men, we should cultivate a “masculinity of the real”;
>> we cannot eliminate women, we should cultivate an acceptance of a
>> “femininity of the real” (Raven makes this point beautifully in the
>> dialogos). Note here that the language “masculinity/femininity of the real”
>> is not the same as “real men” or “real women”, and points towards the
>> capacity for adult sexual identities to deal with self-referential
>> incompleteness and paradox. Perhaps, from this standpoint, we could
>> approach “a new game, that we don’t know what it looks like, but their is a
>> glimpse or a sense of what it could be”. But this standpoint is dark. This
>> standpoint involves a dark renaissance. It involves a movement “which seeks
>> to reveal, affirm, confront, transform the more disturbing aspects of the
>> human condition as the only way to organize society truthfully.” What could
>> be birthed from such a movement, is the emergence of real artists,
>> philosophers and religious subjectivity.
>>
>> A=B.
>>
>> In a society that births real artists, philosophers and religious
>> subjectivity, perhaps we could have real societies capable of tarrying and
>> working with the paradoxes that we are, instead of once more entering the
>> ideological combat of A vs. B.
>>
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>> On 20/01/2022 10:26 pm, Victor MacGill wrote:
>>
>> I embarrassingly recognised this after posting. I sort of threw in that
>> opening to get it noticed and the flippancy didn't really work. I need to
>> read up more about game B. As I noted that animation is the only
>> information I have on game B to date. It will obviously be more nuanced
>> than the animation, but I am left feeling very confused. Nora and the
>> others involved are people I have held in very high esteem for a long time.
>> I had an amazing evening with her in Stockholm several years back I
>> treasure as a life highlight and I am struggling to match the quality of
>> thinking I expect from those people that with what seems like missing some
>> pretty straight forward factors. I am always open to seeing how the real
>> problem is my lack of ability to grasp the complexity of the situation. I
>> would be very open to explore how I might be misrepresenting or straw
>> manning.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Victor
>> On 20/01/2022 8:53 am, Brandon Norgaard wrote:
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>> Victor, cute that you repurposed Nora’s phrase in your message there.
>> Did you notice she is one of the co-producers of the video?  I doubt she
>> would agree that the video is BS or colonial as hell.  I suppose there
>> might be some merit to the rest of your critique, but I do think you’re
>> misrepresenting and kind of straw-manning the messages.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* theory of knowledge society discussion
>> <[log in to unmask]> <[log in to unmask]> *On
>> Behalf Of *Victor MacGill
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>> *Subject:* TOK An Initiation to Game~B
>>
>>
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>> HI All,
>>
>>  I finally got around to look at the video.
>>
>>
>>
>> It BS always was
>>
>> and its Colonial as hell.
>>
>>
>>
>> I haven't looked at Game B before. I think there is something about it
>> that felt like a new label stuck on same old stuff and I put off reading
>> about it. All I  know about Game B is what was on the video., so if that
>> misrepresents Game B then I got it wrong.
>>
>> The video buys into the old story of everything started out perfect and
>> wonderful. Everyone co-operated and lived in harmony, then evil came - the
>> parasite entered and turned humanity's heart to greed and hate and
>> competition, but we can change it, get rid of the evil and live in a new
>> co-operating utopia. This is Riane Eisler's Kurgan hordes who came and
>> destroyed everything that had been so perfect and we can create a new
>> partnership way.
>>
>> The parasite is in the story from the beginning. It is baked into the pie
>> never to be separated from it again. The serpent was always in the Garden
>> of Eden, just not activated. The honeymoon is always great, that nice time
>> when we can pretend everything is wonderful but everything that unfolds
>> comes from what is already present in the honeymoon.
>>
>> As a living system or an organisation is born and grows difference is
>> low, requisite variety is low, opportunity is high. It is easy for the
>> organism to grow, My men's group has 8 people in it. We can all sit and
>> talk through anything that comes up. We have time to listen to everyone and
>> come to a consensus. It all feels easy, but if there were 200 people in the
>> group we could not do it. As difference and requisite variety grows
>> opportunity increases, but so too does conflict - difference to be
>> resolved. Conflict is an opportunity, but when the conflict is not resolved
>> in positive ways, it leads to abuse and violence.
>>
>>  Exponential growth cannot continue forever, there will always be
>> constraining factors that pull it back. Increased difference also creates
>> increased inequality to be resolved and whatever entropy a living system
>> cannot contain and bring to order it dumps on others - and the other in
>> itself.
>>
>> For as long as we create a dualistic spilt good-evil, co-operate-compete,
>> autonomy-connectivity, we perpetuate all the old myths that perpetuate the
>> colonial dream of getting rid of evil to create utopia and its all about
>> the evil over there rather than I have seen the enemy and he is us.
>>
>> Our capacity for violence comes from our ape ancestors. It's how they
>> survived all those millennia. It was never not there. This is actually the
>> core thesis of the book I put into this group a few days back. And thank
>> you because the Game B video has clarified my understanding of my thesis so
>> I can now rewrite it to be much stronger.
>>
>> These ideas are nothing new. Nietzsche, Jung, Thich Nhat Hanh, the
>> Buddha, the list goes on an on of people who have realised the potential
>> for evil and violence is in everyone of us. We all have the capacity on a
>> bad day of being evil, vicious bastards. We have to embrace the shadow,
>> learn to live with all the drives and urges within rather than trying to
>> separate them off and get rid of them.
>>
>> That requires a brutal honesty that is extremely uncomfortable. It is so
>> much easier to say "I am right, you are wrong. You are the problem". Of
>> course I am as bad as anyone. My work is in family violence, so I see it
>> everyday and I see it in myself everyday.
>>
>> We need better stories.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Victor
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19/01/2022 10:04 am, Alexis Kenny wrote:
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>> All,
>>
>>
>>
>> Gregg, I was definitely holding the ToK System in mind while watching
>> this video (noting the places where ToK delineations and specifications
>> would be helpful and necessary).
>>
>>
>>
>> SW, I think you're spot on in naming the issues of interest /
>> accessibility / broad engagement that can be a part of Gregg's work. To his
>> credit (as you note), he's super open to generating content beyond the
>> abstract and is definitely moving more towards day-to-day applicability in
>> his more recent projects. I would be REALLY interested to hear your
>> thoughts on this as an artist, as well as the opinions of other artists and
>> musicians out there (Ken and Greg and more). So...don't crawl back into
>> your cave just yet!
>>
>>
>>
>> Warmly,
>>
>>
>>
>> Ali
>>
>>
>>
>> El mar, 18 ene 2022 a la(s) 13:56, Metamodern Magick (
>> [log in to unmask]) escribió:
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>>
>> I just watched this. It's fantastic.
>>
>> My initial thoughts, of course, are centered around the power of
>> mythology/gamification/symbolism to convey a message. My sense is we are
>> going to need more stuff like this if "liminal" culture is to go from a
>> relatively niche community on the internet to a full-blown cultural
>> revolution. I have plenty of ideas on how to do this as a (theory and
>> ritual) artist, but the trickiest thing, I suppose, is reforming the
>> academic and mental health paradigms to incorporate this.
>>
>> Or maybe it isn't so tricky after all. Gregg's system does a wonderful
>> job of utilising mythos as a way of demonstrating the relationship between
>> different elements in his system. I'm curious on best practices for
>> incorporating that mythos into less intellectually-inclined spaces. Art
>> seems to be the way to go, but in terms of specifics...hmmm.
>>
>> Anyway.
>>
>> Also, this is my first time replying to a TOK Society email! Hello
>> everyone! I'll be crawling back into my cave now.
>>
>> sw
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 3:45 PM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> I really enjoyed this production.
>>
>>
>>
>> And, folks, UTOK does have a place in this. We need some new kinds of
>> knowledge-psycho technologies to get us from Game A to Game ~B, and there
>> is much gold to be mined from UTOK to frame this.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Gregg
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* theory of knowledge society discussion <
>> [log in to unmask]> *On Behalf Of *Chance McDermott
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 3:14 PM
>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>> *Subject:* Re: TOK An Initiation to Game~B
>>
>>
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>> Christian,
>>
>>
>>
>> Loving this art style that captures the imagination and inspiration of
>> indie games.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 11:32 AM Alexis Kenny <[log in to unmask]>
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>> Christian,
>>
>>
>>
>> This was pretty rad! Love the animation, accessible theory/language, and
>> length!
>>
>>
>>
>> As always, I'm always looking for more tangible/concrete
>> directives...maybe the other videos will provide that kind of information?
>>
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