It's funny Rachel, I had thought several times of that specific comment by
Lee too. This is the simplicity of nondual awareness that is so
unrecognizable. Lee can't attain pure awareness, pure awareness already has
Lee. It's already done, it never wasn't the case. The illusion is that Lee
is your core identity. You exist without Lee, but lee cannot exist without
you, aligning with "That" you is remembering (not cognitively) your Self.
You are That.

Like Rachel's quote of Joshu, there is a common refrain that ebfore this
recognition the mountains are mountains and the rivers are rivers. Once
recognition of your Self "occurs," the mountains are no longer mountains
and the rivers are no longer rivers, and once that recognition is realized
to be non-phenomenal and intransient, i.e., not an experience, the
mountains become mountains again and the rivers become rivers again. "...
it is no different."

Dredging along with general indifference,  😇

Nicholas G. Lattanzio, Psy.D.


On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 8:59 PM Rachel Hayden <[log in to unmask]>
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> Thank you Lee (and Cory). Your words "I have yet to attain pure awareness"
> made me think of a quote by the unfathomable Chinese Zen priest Joshu:
> "Once you have seen eye to eye with me, it is no different." I hesitated to
> relate this, but it kept coming back to me over the course of  the day.
>
> Thank you for the dredging efforts Nicholas.
>
> With palms together and a warm heart,
> Rachel
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> On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 7:57 AM lee simplyquality.org
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>> ToK,
>> Assisted by a long-standing dialogues with Nik and Rob my appreciation of
>> non-duality is improving.
>> I recently created a diagram that helps me represent various layers of
>> abstraction that distance us from encountering reality as it is (isness).
>> Although I have yet to attain pure awareness, I better understand it as
>> contact with reality unmitigated by layers of abstraction.
>>
>> I use the diagram in this recent substack post:
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lelandbeaumont.substack.com_p_what-2Dare-2Dwe-2Dtalking-2Dabout-3Futm-5Fsource-3Durl&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=YLVLZbWpBYsIqaVtq8VyuQPh6qXJ_UkEcVExzSIvyT0&s=dNJv9gcc87emJcdaApAQS25gHbzsEzjyckY8QJrx_NM&e= 
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lelandbeaumont.substack.com_p_what-2Dare-2Dwe-2Dtalking-2Dabout-3Futm-5Fsource-3Durl&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=iOlEZxebvk-UsOVyuqY_F-T_qpLp1Xhw61pnP7H-ktk&s=WBU8MOKpQP0ReVYjtQrHkYhZ_MDAIuUBaa_SP4MfkBA&e=>
>> Pure awareness is entering from the right to access reality as it is
>> undistorted (no lens) by mentally constructed layers of abstraction.
>>
>> Although I have more to (un) learn, I hope sharing this diagram, article,
>> and insight is helpful to some.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Lee Beaumont
>>
>>
>> On Feb 26, 2022, at 11:33 AM, Waldemar Schmidt <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
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>> Thank you, Gregg.
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>> On Feb 26, 2022, at 6:45 AM, Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <
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>> Hi TOK Folks,
>>   Given some of the exchanges on “pure awareness” and ‘isness” and
>> nonduality, you might find this blog to be of interest:
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__medium.com_simultaneum_the-2Dkey-2Dto-2Dall-2Dexistence-2Dfe582ab3acda&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=YLVLZbWpBYsIqaVtq8VyuQPh6qXJ_UkEcVExzSIvyT0&s=wF1-9gYWjY15lb2u7DVHRCUFmjDOuwadynwgbXqqmfs&e= 
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__medium.com_simultaneum_the-2Dkey-2Dto-2Dall-2Dexistence-2Dfe582ab3acda&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=2QMiMe8qoe4s9BQR-WaMXMYvwCKct2OOFCIMNCXKyl4&s=VXOXtMh-0r7Hm6pnUtW7h6l41-DzOyXdmB4rOTpawEE&e=>
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>> Best,
>> Gregg
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