Hi Greg, Thanks for listening! Yes, definitely just a broad intro. Kind of an opening lecture for what will be a long (never ending?) series of more intimate conversations. The feedback was mostly positive, though I think many were just overwhelmed. I think many in this community have a desire for a more spiritual, transcendent vision and approach, which is what I am trying to tap into. And even for those who are more oriented toward a woke perspective, it is hard to argue with the research and the loving intention that I am trying to convey, so my hope (and sense) is that it allows them to pause and perhaps engage future conversations with more humility and less of a sense of 'we know what we think and we need to do xyz' when xyz are taken from Kendi or Hannah-Jones or activist college students, etc. So I'll be continuing to think about what those next conversations can look like, and how to create a space and micro-culture for honest dialogue and inquiry, which is really the main thing. The biggest impediment is people having trepidation about actually thinking and discussing things openly, so I'm doing my best to promote that as transparently as I can. Thanks again for your time and attention - it is much appreciated. If you ever want to chat to dive deeper into this with me as I stumble along, let me know! Brad On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 8:14 AM Greg Thomas <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > *CAUTION: *This email originated from outside of JMU. Do not click links > or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is > safe. > ------------------------------ > Hi Brad, > > Since you mentioned me explicitly, I'll share a few thoughts about your > DEI-via-evolutionary-lens talk. > > As a student of the developmental bio-pyscho-social-spiritual models you > reference, I found it to be a very good overview. If this was the > introductory lesson to a series of lectures on DEI, I'd give it an A. But > it's mainly an introduction to the evolution of consciousness and culture, > not a deep dive into its application on the ground in organizations. > > It's a beautiful view at the 10,000 foot level; but how to apply these > general frameworks into the day-to-day interactions of people in > organizations is where the rubber meets the road. > > No doubt, Brad, you've given your Waldorf colleagues the basis for an > advance in their "perspectival" knowing. But John Vervaeke's procedural, > propositional, and participatory ways of knowing would need to be, in > practical, pragmatic terms, brought to bear too for a fuller view of how an > Integral-Metamodern version of DEI could be designed. > > What was the response of your Waldorf colleagues? > > Greg Thomas > > On Sat, Mar 5, 2022 at 6:41 PM Brad Kershner <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> *CAUTION: *This email originated from outside of JMU. Do not click links >> or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is >> safe. >> ------------------------------ >> As discussed in my conversion with Gregg on his podcast, part of my work >> is trying to bring some of these big picture ideas and meta-views into my >> work in education, and into the conversation about diversity, equity, and >> inclusion in education. >> >> >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_e8Ocd-2D7-5FnKI&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=nsKcbnzaAnL8V0mLivF3YzODHGDyFWN-cm23q6N14uU&s=q308F0yk1fanKO8DxhImzbt-mSWYCREoYf0AflhKfnE&e=> >> I just uploaded a talk >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_e8Ocd-2D7-5FnKI&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=nsKcbnzaAnL8V0mLivF3YzODHGDyFWN-cm23q6N14uU&s=q308F0yk1fanKO8DxhImzbt-mSWYCREoYf0AflhKfnE&e=>that >> I gave to staff at a Waldorf school. It is ostensibly about DEI, but it is >> really about the evolution of consciousness and culture (of course). I >> borrow some of Zak's language to get the ball rolling, and then try to pan >> out and reframe the discourse in terms of the historical development of >> identity and values, with an emphasis on the ways that our toxic media >> ecology contributes to the fragmentation of identity, and leads to the >> entire DEI conversation being co-opted by polarization and culture war. >> >> Not sure if I'll share on social media, but I think it's safe and >> hopefully helpful to share here. >> >> FYI esp Greg Thomas - I'd be curious to know what you think if you have >> time for it. >> >> sent with love, to be received with love, >> >> Brad >> ############################ >> >> To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: >> mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the >> following link: >> http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 >> > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the > following link: > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > ############################ To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the following link: http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1