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Abstracts (both for the Conference and the Workshops) has been extended
till December 15, 2014:
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>Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 20:25:12 +0000
>From: Frances Wood <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: A few comments about the APA
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>Dear All,
>
>Being a FEAST lurker and an outsider in more categories than I care to
>enumerate, it saddens me that this (the use of the word, inclusive,
>without a hint of irony) is a serious conversation in the near-middle of
>the second decade of the 21st c. CE.
>Was nothing learned in those vitriolic exchanges of the past 40 years
>wherein the refrain was, " We didn't know who to ask", with " We asked,
>but they didn't... [fill in the blank] " being its antiphon? Never mind
>that the asking/inviting was catch-as-catch-can and so disrespectfully
>last minute that it would make a pole dancer blush (please don't hate on
>me with the stories of 'I got through grad school being a' ... ). For
>every Elizabeth Spelman there are 100 defensive apologists. It really
>does not matter who your best friend/lover/mentor/student was!
>Nonetheless, I have learned from and reveled in the work of many
>contributors to this APA-- with all due respect to its various acronymic
>cousins.
>
>Please, a little truth-telling can go a long, long way:
>We set up this fraternity [sorority], but we didn't know that it would
>near extinction in our lifetimes, and that we would actually have to
>recruit our successors from a pool that has become so shallow that it,
>too, is virtually extinct. Whatever shall we do?
>
>I have vivid memories of the Philosophy chair who, when I entered his
>office, looked at me with such disdain that I thought he would spit at
>me. Virginia Slims had it absolutely wrong. We haven't come from nearly a
>long enough way (it's all a matter of one's vantage point, is it not?).
>That fact notwithstanding, I continue to glory in the legacy of Anna
>Julia Cooper, and remain a true believer... .
>
>Echoing Elizabeth,
>
>Cheers!
>
>Frances Wood -- neither distinguished, nor professor, nor editor, and
>therefore, dismissable
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>From: "Elizabeth Anderson" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 3:27:02 PM
>Subject: Re: A few comments about the APA
>
>I welcome concrete proposals for how the meetings could be made more
>inclusive.
>
>cheers,
>
>Elizabeth Anderson
>
>
>On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Carol Gould < [log in to unmask] >
>wrote:
>
>
>Just to add a few thoughts to this important discussion, as a recent
>member of the National Board (as chair of the LPR committee for 4
>years, which awards the APA prizes):
>
>It's wonderful that things are finally coming together with the new
>Exec Director and the work of the terrific feminists on the current
>board! I think it's also important to acknowledge the previous efforts
>of many division presidents and members of the board (e.g., chairs of
>CSW) over many years towards the goal of greater diversity and
>inclusiveness--e.g., Virginia Held, Anita Silvers, Eve Kittay, among
>many others.
>
>The structure of some of the national meetings remains a bit
>problematic for inclusiveness, in my opinion, though it's not entirely
>clear what to do about it. Although the contributed papers for the
>Eastern have been anonymously refereed at least since 1984 (when I had
>the opportunity to chair the program committee), the limitation on the
>number of panels is a drawback for wide participation, though on the
>other side, there is already a lack of sufficient attendance at many
>of the sessions. In the 80s, a committee I was on for increasing
>diversity and inclusiveness considered the possibility of integrating
>the group meetings into the program. Political science, for example,
>has a meeting where nearly all the panels are proposed by their 60 or
>so organized sections. (Of course, their single annual meeting draws
>6K attendees, so it's not comparable in many ways.) The compromise
>was to list the groups together with the main program (instead of in a
>separate section afterwards), and also to create the advisory
>committee to the program committee (with appointees from various
>subfields of the profession), with the aim of promoting diversity
>(also in terms of philosophical approaches). I think attention could
>be given to further changes in the structure of the meetings which
>could work to enhance inclusiveness.
>
>All best,
>Carol
>
>Carol C. Gould
>Distinguished Professor, Hunter College and the Doctoral Programs in
>Philosophy and Political Science, The Graduate Center, CUNY
>Editor, Journal of Social Philosophy
>www.carolcgould.com
>
>
>
>On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Sally Haslanger < [log in to unmask] >
>wrote:
>> Dear all:
>> I have followed the threads about the APA with interest, being the
>>current
>> President of the Eastern Division. I have been a harsh critic of the
>>APA for
>> many years. There are still many problems with the organization.
>>However,
>> there have been important changes in past three years, many of them due
>>to
>> the hard work of Amy Ferrer, the new Executive Director. I think it
>>might
>> be worth mentioning a few things about the APA that haven't been noted
>>in
>> the threads so far:
>>
>> 1) To my knowledge, papers submitted to APA conferences in all
>>divisions are
>> refereed anonymously. The Pacific APA has been collecting demographic
>>data
>> for a few years. This year the Eastern APA will be following suit.
>>There
>> is data on the attendance, etc. regarding the Pacific meetings that has
>>been
>> analyzed in Molly Paxton's report linked here:
>>
>>http://www.apaonline.org/members/group_content_view.asp?group=110424&id=2
>>10635
>> It is definitely worth reading. Also, the number of papers submitted to
>>APA
>> conferences has increased dramatically in the past few years, putting a
>>huge
>> burden on the program committees.
>>
>> 2) The APA dues and meeting costs do not even adequately cover what it
>>costs
>> to run the APA. Until fairly recently, the APA was running in the red,
>>and
>> this wasn't due to administrative "bloat," I can assure you. Other
>>academic
>> professional organizations charge even higher fees for both dues and
>> conferences. (See also (4) below for reasons why the APA desperately
>>needs
>> MORE money.)
>>
>> 3) The APA is a professional organization the performs many services
>>that
>> aren't obvious to all members. The current National Board and Executive
>> Director are working hard to find ways to provide more and better
>>services
>> to members. It might be worth looking at the list of committees to see
>>the
>> sort of work that is being done and has been done for decades:
>> http://www.apaonline.org/members/group_select.asp?type=11963
>> I can assure you that there are individual's whose professional rights
>>being
>> violated and the APA is doing work to protect them. You may not need
>>this
>> service, but it is the sort of service that only a professional
>>organization
>> can provide.
>>
>> 4) I strongly believe that there is a role for the APA to have policies
>>at
>> a national level that guide and protect is members, and to monitor
>>adherence
>> to the policies. The APA Task Force on Sexual Harassment has been very
>> important in analyzing and understanding the range of the problems in
>>the
>> field; the Site Visit Program is an APA supported program that is an
>> important tool for making change. These programs could be improved and
>>more
>> could be done, but these sorts of efforts would not be possible without
>>the
>> APA. There is currently an APA Task Force on Diversity (led by Liz
>> Anderson) that is working hard to figure out how to promote diversity
>>and
>> inclusion. One major issue is actually LACK of funds to support
>>diversity
>> efforts. There are ways to make contributions to diversity efforts
>> specifically here:
>> http://www.apaonline.org/donations/
>> I have put out information on this fund and called for donations to
>>many
>> lists and I'm profoundly disappointed by the lack of response. PIKSI is
>> going to do a crowdsourced funding effort and will open it soon to
>> contributions. It may be that people don't trust the APA, but I don't
>> believe that giving up on it is the best strategy. We need MORE
>>activism,
>> more organization, more funding to achieve what we need to achieve, and
>> investment not disinvestment is going to make the difference.
>>
>> 5) Having been on the APA National Board for 2 years now, I can say
>>that
>> everyone on the board and in the Executive office are very open to
>>input
>> from the membership. It has been my experience, however, that people
>>expect
>> the APA to accomplish great things, but aren't willing to step up to do
>>the
>> work. The APA is just us. The National Board is a board of philosophers
>> who have full-time jobs. Many of us are working hard to improve the
>> conditions for women and minorities in philosophy, but we this is on
>>top of
>> everything else we do. How was the APA Task Force on Sexual Harassment
>> formed? There was a proposal for such a Task Force submitted to the
>>APA.
>> How was the Site Visit Program created? Three of us put together a
>>detailed
>> proposal after having investigated other similar programs in other
>> disciplines. How was PIKSI formed? A group of individuals envisioned it
>> and submitted a proposal to the APA and have sustained it over the
>>years.
>>
>> I believe that critique is different from complaint. Active resistance
>>is
>> different from disinvestment. Change requires a LOT of hard work. We're
>> never going to change the profession without people who step up and
>> ORGANIZE. Personally, I don't care whether people organize through the
>>APA
>> or not - I have and continue to organize in the profession
>>independently of
>> the APA. But if you think something needs to be done, please please
>> organize to make it happen, don't expect others to do the work that's
>> needed.
>>
>> In solidarity, Sally
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> Sally Haslanger
>> Professor of Philosophy and Women's and Gender Studies
>> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
>> http://sallyhaslanger.weebly.com
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>V=
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>olid; padding-left: 1ex;">Just to add a few thoughts to this important
>disc=
>ussion, as a recent<br> member of the National Board (as chair of the LPR
>c=
>ommittee for 4<br> years, which awards the APA prizes):<br> <br> It's
>wonde=
>rful that things are finally coming together with the new<br> Exec
>Director=
> and the work of the terrific feminists on the current<br> board! I think
>i=
>t's also important to acknowledge the previous efforts<br> of many
>division=
> presidents and members of the board (e.g., chairs of<br> CSW) over many
>ye=
>ars towards the goal of greater diversity and<br> inclusiveness--e.g.,
>Virg=
>inia Held, Anita Silvers, Eve Kittay, among<br> many others.<br> <br> The
>s=
>tructure of some of the national meetings remains a bit<br> problematic
>for=
> inclusiveness, in my opinion, though it's not entirely<br> clear what to
>d=
>o about it. Although the contributed papers for the<br> Eastern
>have =
>been anonymously refereed at least since 1984 (when I had<br> the
>opportuni=
>ty to chair the program committee), the limitation on the<br> number of
>pan=
>els is a drawback for wide participation, though on the<br> other side,
>the=
>re is already a lack of sufficient attendance at many<br> of the
>sessions. =
>In the 80s, a committee I was on for increasing<br> diversity and
>inclusive=
>ness considered the possibility of integrating<br> the group meetings
>into =
>the program. Political science, for example,<br> has a meeting where
>nearly=
> all the panels are proposed by their 60 or<br> so organized sections.
>&nbs=
>p;(Of course, their single annual meeting draws<br> 6K attendees, so it's
>n=
>ot comparable in many ways.) The compromise<br> was to list the
>group=
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>afte=
>rwards), and also to create the advisory<br> committee to the program
>commi=
>ttee (with appointees from various<br> subfields of the profession), with
>t=
>he aim of promoting diversity<br> (also in terms of philosophical
>approache=
>s). I think attention could<br> be given to further changes in the
>structur=
>e of the meetings which<br> could work to enhance inclusiveness.<br> <br>
>A=
>ll best,<br> Carol<br> <br> Carol C. Gould<br> Distinguished Professor,
>Hun=
>ter College and the Doctoral Programs in<br> Philosophy and Political
>Scien=
>ce, The Graduate Center, CUNY<br> Editor, Journal of Social
>Philosophy<br> =
><a href=3D"http://www.carolcgould.com" target=3D"_blank"
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>class=3D"HOEnZb"=
>><div class=3D"h5"><br> <br> <br> On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Sally
>>Ha=
>slanger <<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank"
>data-mce-=
>href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a>> wrote:<br> >
>D=
>ear all:<br> > I have followed the threads about the APA with
>interest, =
>being the current<br> > President of the Eastern Division. I have been
>a=
> harsh critic of the APA for<br> > many years. There are still
>man=
>y problems with the organization. However,<br> > there have been
>importa=
>nt changes in past three years, many of them due to<br> > the hard
>work =
>of Amy Ferrer, the new Executive Director. I think it
>might<br>=
> > be worth mentioning a few things about the APA that haven't been
>note=
>d in<br> > the threads so far:<br> ><br> > 1) To my knowledge,
>pap=
>ers submitted to APA conferences in all divisions are<br> > refereed
>ano=
>nymously. The Pacific APA has been collecting demographic data<br>
>&g=
>t; for a few years. This year the Eastern APA will be following
>suit.=
> There<br> > is data on the attendance, etc. regarding the
>Pacific=
> meetings that has been<br> > analyzed in Molly Paxton's report linked
>h=
>ere:<br> > <a
>href=3D"http://www.apaonline.org/members/group_content_vie=
>w.asp?group=3D110424&id=3D210635" target=3D"_blank"
>data-mce-href=3D"ht=
>tp://www.apaonline.org/members/group_content_view.asp?group=3D110424&i
>d=
>=3D210635">http://www.apaonline.org/members/group_content_view.asp?group=3
>D=
>110424&id=3D210635</a><br> > It is definitely worth reading.
> A=
>lso, the number of papers submitted to APA<br> > conferences has
>increas=
>ed dramatically in the past few years, putting a huge<br> > burden on
>th=
>e program committees.<br> ><br> > 2) The APA dues and meeting costs
>d=
>o not even adequately cover what it costs<br> > to run the APA.
> Un=
>til fairly recently, the APA was running in the red, and<br> > this
>wasn=
>'t due to administrative "bloat," I can assure you. Other
>academic<br=
>> > professional organizations charge even higher fees for both dues
>>and=
><br> > conferences. (See also (4) below for reasons why the APA
>de=
>sperately needs<br> > MORE money.)<br> ><br> > 3) The APA is a
>pro=
>fessional organization the performs many services that<br> > aren't
>obvi=
>ous to all members. The current National Board and Executive<br>
>>=
> Director are working hard to find ways to provide more and better
>services=
><br> > to members. It might be worth looking at the list of
>commit=
>tees to see the<br> > sort of work that is being done and has been
>done =
>for decades:<br> > <a
>href=3D"http://www.apaonline.org/members/group_sel=
>ect.asp?type=3D11963" target=3D"_blank"
>data-mce-href=3D"http://www.apaonli=
>ne.org/members/group_select.asp?type=3D11963">http://www.apaonline.org/mem
>b=
>ers/group_select.asp?type=3D11963</a><br> > I can assure you that
>there =
>are individual's whose professional rights being<br> > violated and
>the =
>APA is doing work to protect them. You may not need this<br> >
>ser=
>vice, but it is the sort of service that only a professional
>organization<b=
>r> > can provide.<br> ><br> > 4) I strongly believe that
>the=
>re is a role for the APA to have policies at<br> > a national level
>that=
> guide and protect is members, and to monitor adherence<br> > to the
>pol=
>icies. The APA Task Force on Sexual Harassment has been very<br>
>>=
> important in analyzing and understanding the range of the problems in
>the<=
>br> > field; the Site Visit Program is an APA supported program that
>is =
>an<br> > important tool for making change. These programs could
>be=
> improved and more<br> > could be done, but these sorts of efforts
>would=
> not be possible without the<br> > APA. There is currently an
>APA =
>Task Force on Diversity (led by Liz<br> > Anderson) that is working
>hard=
> to figure out how to promote diversity and<br> > inclusion. One
>m=
>ajor issue is actually LACK of funds to support diversity<br> >
>efforts.=
> There are ways to make contributions to diversity efforts<br> >
>s=
>pecifically here:<br> > <a
>href=3D"http://www.apaonline.org/donations/" =
>target=3D"_blank"
>data-mce-href=3D"http://www.apaonline.org/donations/">htt=
>p://www.apaonline.org/donations/</a><br> > I have put out information
>on=
> this fund and called for donations to many<br> > lists and I'm
>profound=
>ly disappointed by the lack of response. PIKSI is<br> > going to
>d=
>o a crowdsourced funding effort and will open it soon to<br> >
>contribut=
>ions. It may be that people don't trust the APA, but I don't<br>
>>=
> believe that giving up on it is the best strategy. We need MORE
>acti=
>vism,<br> > more organization, more funding to achieve what we need to
>a=
>chieve, and<br> > investment not disinvestment is going to make the
>diff=
>erence.<br> ><br> > 5) Having been on the APA National Board for 2
>ye=
>ars now, I can say that<br> > everyone on the board and in the
>Executive=
> office are very open to input<br> > from the membership. It has
>b=
>een my experience, however, that people expect<br> > the APA to
>accompli=
>sh great things, but aren't willing to step up to do the<br> > work.
>&nb=
>sp;The APA is just us. The National Board is a board of
>philosophers<=
>br> > who have full-time jobs. Many of us are working hard to
>impr=
>ove the<br> > conditions for women and minorities in philosophy, but
>we =
>this is on top of<br> > everything else we do. How was the APA
>Tas=
>k Force on Sexual Harassment<br> > formed? There was a proposal
>fo=
>r such a Task Force submitted to the APA.<br> > How was the Site Visit
>P=
>rogram created? Three of us put together a detailed<br> >
>proposal=
> after having investigated other similar programs in other<br> >
>discipl=
>ines. How was PIKSI formed? A group of individuals envisioned
>i=
>t<br> > and submitted a proposal to the APA and have sustained it over
>t=
>he years.<br> ><br> > I believe that critique is different from
>compl=
>aint. Active resistance is<br> > different from disinvestment.
>&n=
>bsp;Change requires a LOT of hard work. We're<br> > never going
>to=
> change the profession without people who step up and<br> > ORGANIZE.
>&n=
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>&g=
>t; or not - I have and continue to organize in the profession
>independently=
> of<br> > the APA. But if you think something needs to be done,
>pl=
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>do =
>the work that's<br> > needed.<br> ><br> > In solidarity,
>Sally<br>=
> ><br> >
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