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I really think this is all beside the point. The Tuvel paper and the
Hypatia response were discussed to death last month. What we have now is an
open, blatant attempt to get people (mostly junior, many trans/POC) in
trouble with their institutions, by way of an offensive, TERF-infested,
race-erasing letter. The letter should be completely unsupportable for any
feminist or any decent human being. No need to reopen exhausted
conversations about earlier events over it.

Rebecca



On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Tamsin E Lorraine <[log in to unmask]
> wrote:

> Sorry--of course I meant "inclusion" not "conclusion" in the first line!
>
> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Tamsin E Lorraine <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> I do think Tuvel's argument was "valid" for conclusion in Hypatia because
>> it used careful reasoning in applying a parallel between two cases. This is
>> a particular kind of approach that our discipline endorses. That such an
>> approach can appear to me to be overly circumscribed and ahistorical --as
>> well as dismissive of real life and power relations--doesn't mean that it
>> doesn't produce interesting and even productive results in some cases.
>>
>> The way the problem was set up didn't seem to me to require a canvassing
>> of research in the area since it was set up as a circumscribed approach
>> designed to follow through a (perhaps overly intellectualized) problem in a
>> narrow way. I would hope that the article would trigger other articles that
>> would point out the limitations of such an approach and the way it failed
>> in this instance.
>>
>> It's not a matter of saying "all viewpoints are equally valid"--it's a
>> matter of pushing through the limitations of our own approaches by virtue
>> of debate and critical reflection rather than policing. Tuvel's article was
>> well-intentioned and well-done for what it was. To allow it to incite
>> further debate on its drawbacks would, I think, be illuminating and helpful
>> for moving philosophy as a discipline past some of its blockages in
>> addressing crucial contemporary problems in an ethical way.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Tamsin Lorraine
>>
>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 10:27 AM, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> Dipping back into a conversation because it seems like a relevant
>>> qualifier is being excluded:
>>>
>>> Tasmin & Kathy
>>>
>>> I feel like in defense of Hypatia there continue to be some serious
>>> flaws in addressing the issue. By framing free speech as a void there is a
>>> continuing tendency to argue that "all viewpoints are equally valid," while
>>> Hypatia is opening itself to such viewpoints should Hypatia, Feminist
>>> Philosophy and Philosophy at large revisit other arguments lacking in
>>> scholarly merit? Should we look forward to article arguing for the positive
>>> contributions of eugenics? The necessity of fascism? And further *why* is
>>> there a blithe dismissal that so many people that objected to the original
>>> article objected because *it could not muster a veneer of relevant
>>> research* which is entwined with issues of review process. Nowhere in the
>>> original letter is there a call for Tuvel to lose her job nor is there a
>>> call for her to face academic sanctions nor is there an explicit claim that
>>> no research should ever be done on a subject. The claim is that the voices,
>>> arguments and research of stakeholders in an argument are actually
>>> important, something we could simply call "poor scholarship." It is
>>> troubling that academic freedom only seems to come up when the academic has
>>> managed to attack socially vulnerable groups (certainly Ward Churchill did
>>> not get the same defense when he actually lost his position, which was
>>> directly a freedom of speech case) and which continues to act as though
>>> Tuvel is *entitled* to a job; if her two papers I have read (the Hypatia
>>> article and one on "animality" about women of color which both show a
>>> marked disinterest in the scholarship of women of color which talking about
>>> women of color) are a benchmark for her research, she doesn't deserve the
>>> position given her antagonistic viewpoint of historically vulnerable
>>> populations as objects for her to utilize for thought experiments rather
>>> than subjects of knowing. Maybe my assessment is harsh? But it is
>>> immaterial.
>>>
>>> Kathy trying to parse your second to last paragraph, am I wrong in
>>> thinking you are claiming that treating trans individuals as fully
>>> functional human beings (and as having a legitimate gender) is an
>>> ideological point which (again as I am parsing it) you believe is invalid
>>> and dogmatically enforced? Because you could come out and say it? Since the
>>> whole "pro trans = pro gender" reads as though you are arguing that there
>>> is something wrong with the position?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Fiona Maeve Geist
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 30, 2017, at 9:38 AM, Tamsin E Lorraine <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I was troubled by the original letter demanding retraction of Tuvel's
>>> article both for its harshness toward a junior faculty member as well as
>>> its harshness toward Hypatia reviewers.
>>>
>>> At the same time that I am sympathetic to those who were offended by
>>> Tuvel's article, the kind of discomfort caused by feeling one's own
>>> experience squelched seems to me endemic to debate--especially in our
>>> relatively conservative discipline. Yes, this article marginalizes specific
>>> forms of lived experience--never mind the work emerging from those lived
>>> experiences--by virtue of turning it into a kind of intellectual puzzle
>>> that carefully works through a circumscribed problem from one angle. But
>>> even if this particular article might not have been my cup of tea, it
>>> seemed to me that the article was in keeping with the standards of our
>>> discipline. To exclude it from open debate where multiple viewpoints are
>>> included seems to me to be counter-productive. What Hypatia needs to do, in
>>> my opinion, is not exclude this kind of article, but make sure it includes
>>> other voices, styles, and approaches as well. I worry about silencing
>>> voices and I worry about policing voices that attempt to push our
>>> discipline in positive directions even if that direction may not appear to
>>> be "positive enough" according to our own sensibilities.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Tamsin Lorraine
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 8:15 AM, kathy miriam <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi John Flowers,
>>>> you write, "Even if, as Dr. Tirrell notes above, this letter was meant
>>>> to "scare and waste time and energy," and even if it is an elaborate hoax
>>>> as Dr. Scheman suggests, some of us do not have the luxury of treating it
>>>> as "exterior" to our future scholarship: I, as an example, have no choice
>>>> but to treat this as a cautionary tale for what might happen to me *should
>>>> I get scholarship wrong*, as a junior scholar."
>>>> Are you referring to the original letter or the recent letter?  I"m
>>>> confused because while the women you refer to are talking about the recent
>>>> letter it seems a complete reversal to call *that* letter a "cautionary
>>>> tale" which hovers as a threat to juniors and minorities etc.rather than
>>>> the first.  Can you clarify? thanks.
>>>>
>>>> The remarks here insisting that the original letter signed by 800
>>>> academics are a critique of the institution and not an attack on an
>>>> individual even though almost the entire focus of the letter is on an
>>>> individual scholar who is a junior seem disingenuous to say the least.
>>>> Everybody  here knows how vulnerable Juniors are to quirks in tenure
>>>> committees let alone to such a full scale public excoriation.  Indeed the
>>>> first letter is a pointed threat to juniors and other vulnerable academics
>>>> including grad students about not "getting scholarship wrong" --although
>>>> the reality is not about scholarship but ideology--not getting the ideology
>>>> wrong. In this case pro-trans and what many of us call pro-*gender*
>>>> ideology.
>>>>
>>>> I'm really surprised that nobody is addressing the chief issue of the
>>>> recent letter which is to cry out against censorship. Again it seems
>>>> disingenuous to call for more critical thinking rather than less (as Naomi
>>>> does) when the original letter is a project calling for *retracting* an
>>>> article rather than taking the usual tack of rebuttal.  Why so drastic?
>>>>
>>>> I have more points to raise but I'll leave it here.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely
>>>> Kathy Miriam
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 1:08 AM, Abigail Klassen <
>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi John and all,
>>>>> As a recent PhD myself, I just found myself saying in my head, "Wow,
>>>>> this man (John Flowers) has written what I wish I could have even begun to
>>>>> articulate in the privacy of my own head, let alone in a mass email." At
>>>>> least I managed to get that thought out "on paper" (i.e. as pixels on a
>>>>> screen).
>>>>> Thank you, John.
>>>>> -Abigail
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr. a.r. (Abigail/Abi) Klassen - pronouns: ze/they/theirs
>>>>> Faculty, Department of Philosophy and Honors College
>>>>> University of Nevada, Las Vegas, Central Desert Complex 4, 424
>>>>> Lab Affiliate, Laboratory for Perceptual and Cognitive Systems,
>>>>> Faculty of Computing
>>>>> University of Latvia
>>>>> [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> or
>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>> www.abigailklassen.com
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.abigailklassen.com_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HUp8-bkYMlNgd3ZJBxWBKsBsFAFGHrEZg21p9gxugJA&m=CThd0G_E86zibHo-0NXY0qisodZDPO2IQhA4eIvY8IQ&s=TB3LDbLqbSwoyrjEd8OEpKASGmVA7APRVf9VE2HH1To&e=>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 6:52 AM, John Flowers <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As one of the junior scholars on the list, I've been following this
>>>>>> conversation with interest, specifically with regards to how senior
>>>>>> scholars in the field take up their obligation to mentor and cultivate
>>>>>> junior scholars. In my mind, this also includes the *defense* of
>>>>>> those scholars from retaliation within and outside of the field.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, something about the direction of this conversation has
>>>>>> troubled me, and I think this troubled sensation can be summed up in a
>>>>>> quotation from Sara Ahmed's text *Living A Feminist Life* which I
>>>>>> think is apropos of the situation:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *"When we have to think strategically, we also have to accept our
>>>>>> complicity: we forgo any illusions of purity; we give up the safety of
>>>>>> exteriority. If we are not exterior to the problem under investigation, we
>>>>>> too are the problem under investigation." *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are all implicated in the situation that has given rise to the
>>>>>> letter above (which, as a black junior scholar, is a frightening reality),
>>>>>> as well as the need for conversations about the editorial practices of
>>>>>> Hypatia, and the response of our field to Tuvel's article, and we must all
>>>>>> look at how we *allowed* this to happen within our own community.
>>>>>> That is, we must all examine the ways we bear some collective
>>>>>> responsibility for the situation, and then do the hard work to change it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, as Ahmed says, we need to give up the "safety of exteriority"
>>>>>> if we're going to make any actual headway at eliminating the conditions
>>>>>> that allowed for this situation to arise in the first place. We need to ask
>>>>>> how we, as a community of scholars, created the conditions for this entire
>>>>>> situation to arise, and that requires us to accept some responsibility for
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even if, as Dr. Tirrell notes above, this letter was meant to "scare
>>>>>> and waste time and energy," and even if it is an elaborate hoax as Dr.
>>>>>> Scheman suggests, some of us do not have the luxury of treating it as
>>>>>> "exterior" to our future scholarship: I, as an example, have no choice but
>>>>>> to treat this as a cautionary tale for what might happen to me *should
>>>>>> I get scholarship wrong*, as a junior scholar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That being said, while I agree with Dr. Springer on the need for
>>>>>> individual conversations, we must not forget that statements from
>>>>>> institutions (and I would treat Hypatia and FEAST itself as institutions)
>>>>>> generally carry the weight of the individuals who make up those
>>>>>> institutions. While individual conversations are necessary, statements from
>>>>>> institutions, *supported by action*, are also necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An institutional commitment to resolving a this situation in a way
>>>>>> that promotes the elimination of the kinds of conditions that have given
>>>>>> rise to this situation is something that can be used to hold not only the
>>>>>> institution accountable, but those individuals who claim to be part of the
>>>>>> institution as well. However, as I said above, a institution must be
>>>>>> willing to support said statement with action (which is something I also
>>>>>> claim of individuals) if the statement is to be effective.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do want to conclude by stating that I am heartened by the number of
>>>>>> responses to the letter that pointed out its attempts to target vulnerable
>>>>>> junior scholars: many of my colleagues have expressed concern about
>>>>>> weighing in on the situation out of fear that they, too, might become
>>>>>> targets before they've managed to establish themselves within the field.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Flowers
>>>>>> Ph.D Candidate,
>>>>>> Southern Illinois University, Carbondale.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 11:35 PM, Reiheld, Alison <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, the work involved in tracking down the provosts and admins is a
>>>>>>> remarkable investment. And, so far as I can tell, an accurate one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That said, I look forward to a conversation with my Provost about
>>>>>>> how my concerns over the Hypatia issues (as symptomatic of the profession,
>>>>>>> but hoping for much better from our beloved flagship journal of feminist
>>>>>>> philosophy) undermine the study of female materiality and women's issues in
>>>>>>> the academy. I mean, speaking as the Director of Women's Studies, this
>>>>>>> seems like a serious problem that the Provost and I should take up with
>>>>>>> Prof. Reiheld.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Alison
>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> Alison Reiheld
>>>>>>> Associate Professor, Department of Philosophy
>>>>>>> Director, Women's Studies Program
>>>>>>> College of Arts and Sciences
>>>>>>> Southern Illinois University-Edwardsville
>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__siue.academia.edu_AlisonReiheld&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HUp8-bkYMlNgd3ZJBxWBKsBsFAFGHrEZg21p9gxugJA&m=K5CkRn6G1CQTnDYM2qVN1Hy14z9zggXpSi7woSC0WkQ&s=oSKFGo8cwDr7d5fs0KK4OPRizTgpdc557TnDRZjS_yQ&e= 
>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__siue.academia.edu_AlisonReiheld&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HUp8-bkYMlNgd3ZJBxWBKsBsFAFGHrEZg21p9gxugJA&m=N7HjC8sTkL-P07ndX8XZxHvZsrhs0gucwhW-zudsYe0&s=dsSaeJmJxGJIBkg1kV2-QCY8fbtgS1CsT-XGCmm7-Lk&e=>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>> *From:* Feminist ethics and social theory <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> on behalf of Naomi Scheman <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:34:19 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: open letter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The only signatories' names that looked at all familiar to me were
>>>>>>> Ted Roosevelt and Adam Smith. But the letter specifically says they are not
>>>>>>> all academics, let alone philosophers, so I don't know if it's a hoax or
>>>>>>> rather a piece of nastily sophisticated trolling. And someone did a huge
>>>>>>> amount of work tracking down the provosts at the universities of all the
>>>>>>> signers of our open letter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Naomi Scheman
>>>>>>> Professor Emerita, Philosophy and Gender, Women, & Sexuality Studies
>>>>>>> University of Minnesota
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 28, 2017, at 10:40 PM, Lynne Tirrell <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am wondering if this is a hoax. Did others look at the signatures?
>>>>>>> Do you know anyone? Only a few have institutional affiliations, and I don't
>>>>>>> recognize a single name. I don't know everyone in philosophy, of course,
>>>>>>> but NONE??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is meant to scare and waste time and energy. I'm walking away.
>>>>>>> But thank you to everyone who has posted useful analyses.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (Also, my last note was marked a possible fraud on my own iPad, I'm
>>>>>>> not sure why.sorry if you got that too. )
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lynne Tirrell
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 28, 2017, at 10:23 PM, Rebecca Kukla <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Julianna - Are you sure you provost signed it? They set it up so
>>>>>>> that the people they are sending it *to* look like the people who
>>>>>>> signed it. I think your provost is on there because you signed the original
>>>>>>> letter and they are trying to rat everyone out to their provosts, because
>>>>>>> they are rancid pond scum.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rebecca
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 10:04 PM, Julinna Oxley <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks to Rebecca, Camisha, Serene, Ann, and others who I may have
>>>>>>>> missed, for your thoughts. I am in complete agreement with the points you
>>>>>>>> raise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am writing with a “heads up” to anyone who signed the letter: take
>>>>>>>> caution. My Provost has signed this letter, which means they did
>>>>>>>> circulate the letter to upper administrators. I have a chair and a dean
>>>>>>>> between me and the provost; the provost is the highest person that I would
>>>>>>>> “directly report” to. I am not sure whether this letter was sent to my
>>>>>>>> Dean. To be clear, I did not agree with everything in the original letter
>>>>>>>> to Hypatia, but agreed with its spirit, and signed on in order to support
>>>>>>>> the people whose work and lives I felt were erased in the Hypatia essay.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am shocked that:
>>>>>>>> (a) this matter has been brought to the awareness of my EMPLOYER.
>>>>>>>> The original letter which I signed was addressed to Hypatia, as it was an
>>>>>>>> academic matter. It was not an employment matter. But now my participation
>>>>>>>> in an academic debate has become a subject of my employment. Great.
>>>>>>>> (b) the letter my employer received framing this debate is
>>>>>>>> completely one-sided, and has the faults that others have identified.
>>>>>>>> (c) the signatories of this counter-letter do not recognize the
>>>>>>>> irony of their own actions with respect to harm, speech, etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am grateful that I am tenured and have a good working
>>>>>>>> relationship with my Provost (at least I did up until now, I hope he did
>>>>>>>> not receive an email saying, “Julinna Oxley is a witch-hunter, you should
>>>>>>>> step in here”!!). My provost is a Business professor by training and I
>>>>>>>> reported to him when I directed our Women’s and Gender Studies program.
>>>>>>>> During that time he was very supportive and open to learning more about
>>>>>>>> gender and feminism, gave us more lines to grow the program—and in fact, we
>>>>>>>> just hired a full-time director to replace me. I personally am not worried
>>>>>>>> about my employment (though I wonder now what his impressions of me and
>>>>>>>> this whole debacle are), but I am pretty irate that they did this, because
>>>>>>>> it could be really harmful for other people who may have signed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will not be writing or signing yet a third letter to circulate to
>>>>>>>> the employers of the signatories of THIS LETTER – but the thought did cross
>>>>>>>> my mind.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In solidarity,
>>>>>>>> Julinna
>>>>>>>> * —— Julinna C. Oxley, Ph.D. *Associate Professor of Philosophy
>>>>>>>> Coastal Carolina University
>>>>>>>> Edwards Humanities and Fine Arts #280
>>>>>>>> 133 Chanticleer Drive West
>>>>>>>> P.O. Box 261954
>>>>>>>> Conway SC 29528
>>>>>>>> (843) 349-6548
>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__joxley-40coastal.edu&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HUp8-bkYMlNgd3ZJBxWBKsBsFAFGHrEZg21p9gxugJA&m=KfVDTAp8SMAq3DDX3VV7hy7cACxXi36mA2G_T8_c5hU&s=KNx8KSc1VQ-eR0cUaTjwsx_MIlc8XoG7SLECCMo201Y&e=>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: Feminist ethics and social theory <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>> on behalf of Serene Khader <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>> Reply-To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>> Date: Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 8:52 PM
>>>>>>>> To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: open letter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Speaking as an individual (and not as a representative of Hypatia),
>>>>>>>> I want to agree with the concerns raised Ann, Naomi, Rebecca, and Camisha.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I also want to draw attention to something that Rebecca already
>>>>>>>> started to, but that may not be evident to many readers at first blush: the
>>>>>>>> letter is TERFy. Point 3 is all about how "feelings about gender" are
>>>>>>>> making it impossible to talk about sex. So, though the letter paints itself
>>>>>>>> as a defense of academic freedom, I urge people to take note of what is
>>>>>>>> being said in that section of the letter. As far as I can tell, the letter
>>>>>>>> is trying to create outrage about the idea that trans people are silencing
>>>>>>>> "females" and preventing feminist movements from advancing their interests.
>>>>>>>> And I would hope that most people in the feminist philosophy community
>>>>>>>> would find that proposition false and morally suspect--and that those of us
>>>>>>>> who are cis would consider the interests and perspectives of our trans
>>>>>>>> friends and colleagues as we formulate our individual reactions to the
>>>>>>>> letter.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:17 AM, Lynne Tirrell <
>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I agree with Ann and think Naomi and Rebecca are right on. Thanks
>>>>>>>>> especially, Naomi.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lynne
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad, by dictation
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On May 28, 2017, at 5:09 PM, Ann Garry <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i'm coming to this only after seeing a number of responses.  Let's
>>>>>>>>> not give these people any more publicity. Ann
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Rebecca Kukla <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The more I am processing this the angrier I am getting. So they
>>>>>>>>>> are sending this stupid letter to the provosts and deans of untenured
>>>>>>>>>> people, trans and other minority scholars, and grad students who signed -
>>>>>>>>>> presumably to get them in trouble? To fuck up their lives? To what end? How
>>>>>>>>>> does this even conceivably help the causes that they themselves claim to
>>>>>>>>>> champion? What the hell?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And they are using THIS LIST  to try to get feminist scholars to
>>>>>>>>>> throw vulnerable people under the bus at their own institutions, quite
>>>>>>>>>> possibly without even noticing that that's what they are doing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> With Naomi's clarification I am now about a thousand times more
>>>>>>>>>> angry and disgusted than I was at the start.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Rebecca
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Rebecca Kukla <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't understand the list either! Weird! Thanks, Naomi.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with several others on this thread that (even though I
>>>>>>>>>>> started it) a back and forth over email is unlikely to be a wonderful idea,
>>>>>>>>>>> and things will only get more and more meta. The more I read this letter
>>>>>>>>>>> the worse it gets, It's TERFy and ignorant and doing even Tuvel herself no
>>>>>>>>>>> favors. I'm pretty furious it exists.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll just once more renew my call for people to actually work on
>>>>>>>>>>> these issues and on communicating and listening better.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Rebecca
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Naomi Scheman <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just a quick note lest anyone make the mistake I made: the list
>>>>>>>>>>>> of names at the bottom of the open letter are the addressees, not the
>>>>>>>>>>>> signers!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Naomi Scheman
>>>>>>>>>>>> Professor Emerita, Philosophy and Gender, Women, & Sexuality
>>>>>>>>>>>> Studies
>>>>>>>>>>>> University of Minnesota
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 28, 2017, at 4:31 PM, NOELLE MCAFEE <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree 100 percent with Rebecca. Let's just stop tearing the
>>>>>>>>>>>> feminist philosophy community apart. Enough with letters, petitions,
>>>>>>>>>>>> defensiveness, and attacks. We need to think constructively about editorial
>>>>>>>>>>>> practices going forward. Feminists ought to understand that if a group of
>>>>>>>>>>>> colleagues are deeply offended by something then we all need to take notice
>>>>>>>>>>>> and be honest and charitable and try to appreciate what is going on. This
>>>>>>>>>>>> may call for a conference to sort it out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 28, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Rebecca Kukla <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So people are angry about an open letter that they felt
>>>>>>>>>>>> attacked a junior person so they thought the best solution was yet another
>>>>>>>>>>>> open letter attacking what was mostly junior people? This has to stop
>>>>>>>>>>>> somewhere. And this affair has to be allowed to die already.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't sign the first letter and I am not signing this one
>>>>>>>>>>>> either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> People need to stop trying to settle their academic and
>>>>>>>>>>>> political disagreements via open letters designed to publicly shame by
>>>>>>>>>>>> ganging up on other people. It's not even clear what action item this one
>>>>>>>>>>>> is calling for. (The article is already being published, with only tiny
>>>>>>>>>>>> word changes to bring it in line with current linguistic conventions that
>>>>>>>>>>>> avoid slurs, and the other two items are too vague to be actionable.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The issues in this area are super important, so let's actually
>>>>>>>>>>>> work on them, rather than devoting our productive hours to
>>>>>>>>>>>> metametametacritiques.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rebecca
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Veltman, Andrea - veltmaal <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian Vigo ([log in to unmask]) asked me to forward the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> following message to the FEAST listserv.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Andrea Veltman
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Associate Professor of Philosophy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Department of Philosophy & Religion
>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Madison University
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MSC 8006
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harrisonburg, VA  22807
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office phone: 540-568-4236 <(540)%20568-4236>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My latest book, *Meaningful Work*, is recently published by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oxford University Press:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__global.oup.com_academic_product_meaningful-2Dwork-2D9780&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HUp8-bkYMlNgd3ZJBxWBKsBsFAFGHrEZg21p9gxugJA&m=K5CkRn6G1CQTnDYM2qVN1Hy14z9zggXpSi7woSC0WkQ&s=Vs5zfqa8Ue5ZcUQpMjanR3bKU5q7VsUzezsXctH8sd8&e= 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 190618179?cc=us&lang=en&
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__global.oup.com_academic_product_meaningful-2Dwork-2D9780190618179-3Fcc-3Dus-26lang-3Den-26&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HUp8-bkYMlNgd3ZJBxWBKsBsFAFGHrEZg21p9gxugJA&m=LOV-2yxVfBhZ6rrELChk7V70HvBgW6zEshQ0UIKg7j4&s=HYce-eGOp33z007rPm2X5TNGaDb6rEQYz0bS3UosSqI&e=>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Julian Vigo <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 27, 2017 3:54 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Veltman, Andrea - veltmaal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* open letter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Andrea,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am writing to ask if you could sign & share this open letter
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to protect academic freedom related to the Tuvel affair with consequences
>>>>>>>>>>>>> far beyond:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ipetitions.com_petition_an-2Dopen-2Dletter-2Don-2Dthe-2Dhy&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HUp8-bkYMlNgd3ZJBxWBKsBsFAFGHrEZg21p9gxugJA&m=K5CkRn6G1CQTnDYM2qVN1Hy14z9zggXpSi7woSC0WkQ&s=fJSEiuN0VBIkyjn135krwv3AHvnB75X1gOPV1SCqcaM&e= 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> patia-controversy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ipetitions.com_petition_an-2Dopen-2Dletter-2Don-2Dthe-2Dhypatia-2Dcontroversy&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=D9KtTmOQsn10dtN5dPMs0Q&m=5u-tJCbUBRI5uuQg2RcQWoYD8ONgKhBApUTxxS6d4u8&s=pD1LC8iUB_9BolWVjp5mQO6Efu7JLE3SBBQChsLBQFA&e=>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your collaboration in signing and sharing this on social
>>>>>>>>>>>>> media, with colleagues and the Listserv would be creating appreciated!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian Vigo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Dr. Julian Vigo, PhD, FRSA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      www.lubellule.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.lubellule.com_&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=D9KtTmOQsn10dtN5dPMs0Q&m=5u-tJCbUBRI5uuQg2RcQWoYD8ONgKhBApUTxxS6d4u8&s=lb2KP3tV7dUGoMg0KrnwvFGHaQbKDzIfW2DnaflwlMc&e=>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__about.me_julianvigo&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=D9KtTmOQsn10dtN5dPMs0Q&m=5u-tJCbUBRI5uuQg2RcQWoYD8ONgKhBApUTxxS6d4u8&s=CtuY6MLWsQNiq_B2LMDT2V8kGYMrgCu6Q9MsarFeLKg&e=>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dragonfly.jpg>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__about.me_julianvigo&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=D9KtTmOQsn10dtN5dPMs0Q&m=5u-tJCbUBRI5uuQg2RcQWoYD8ONgKhBApUTxxS6d4u8&s=CtuY6MLWsQNiq_B2LMDT2V8kGYMrgCu6Q9MsarFeLKg&e=>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__about.me_julianvigo&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=D9KtTmOQsn10dtN5dPMs0Q&m=5u-tJCbUBRI5uuQg2RcQWoYD8ONgKhBApUTxxS6d4u8&s=CtuY6MLWsQNiq_B2LMDT2V8kGYMrgCu6Q9MsarFeLKg&e=>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__about.me_julianvigo&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=D9KtTmOQsn10dtN5dPMs0Q&m=5u-tJCbUBRI5uuQg2RcQWoYD8ONgKhBApUTxxS6d4u8&s=CtuY6MLWsQNiq_B2LMDT2V8kGYMrgCu6Q9MsarFeLKg&e=>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__about.me_julianvigo&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=D9KtTmOQsn10dtN5dPMs0Q&m=5u-tJCbUBRI5uuQg2RcQWoYD8ONgKhBApUTxxS6d4u8&s=CtuY6MLWsQNiq_B2LMDT2V8kGYMrgCu6Q9MsarFeLKg&e=>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__about.me_julianvigo&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=D9KtTmOQsn10dtN5dPMs0Q&m=5u-tJCbUBRI5uuQg2RcQWoYD8ONgKhBApUTxxS6d4u8&s=CtuY6MLWsQNiq_B2LMDT2V8kGYMrgCu6Q9MsarFeLKg&e=>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__about.me_julianvigo&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=D9KtTmOQsn10dtN5dPMs0Q&m=5u-tJCbUBRI5uuQg2RcQWoYD8ONgKhBApUTxxS6d4u8&s=CtuY6MLWsQNiq_B2LMDT2V8kGYMrgCu6Q9MsarFeLKg&e=>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__about.me_julianvigo&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=D9KtTmOQsn10dtN5dPMs0Q&m=5u-tJCbUBRI5uuQg2RcQWoYD8ONgKhBApUTxxS6d4u8&s=CtuY6MLWsQNiq_B2LMDT2V8kGYMrgCu6Q9MsarFeLKg&e=>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> linkedin
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__uk.linkedin.com_pub_julian-2Dvigo-2Dphd_18_b24_5a5&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=D9KtTmOQsn10dtN5dPMs0Q&m=5u-tJCbUBRI5uuQg2RcQWoYD8ONgKhBApUTxxS6d4u8&s=Brg7Suwas2mQYJTX_opKLW3fHp-Z0fjtr4S546HlciE&e=>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   aboutme
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__about.me_julianvigo&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=D9KtTmOQsn10dtN5dPMs0Q&m=5u-tJCbUBRI5uuQg2RcQWoYD8ONgKhBApUTxxS6d4u8&s=CtuY6MLWsQNiq_B2LMDT2V8kGYMrgCu6Q9MsarFeLKg&e=>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   twitter
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.twitter.com_lubelluledotcom&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=D9KtTmOQsn10dtN5dPMs0Q&m=5u-tJCbUBRI5uuQg2RcQWoYD8ONgKhBApUTxxS6d4u8&s=1tZr6fcqe5sG1BFlSuI6Jnynvj_55RCbV3YTleKhSTA&e=>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   google+
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__plus.google.com_u_0_114965595632445402873&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=D9KtTmOQsn10dtN5dPMs0Q&m=5u-tJCbUBRI5uuQg2RcQWoYD8ONgKhBApUTxxS6d4u8&s=YCmrjJh7nOwd7aieUW7wEml27zyKNbRHRCKGBIHc71s&e=>
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>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Ann Garry *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.calstatela.edu_faculty_ann-2Dgarry&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HUp8-bkYMlNgd3ZJBxWBKsBsFAFGHrEZg21p9gxugJA&m=K5CkRn6G1CQTnDYM2qVN1Hy14z9zggXpSi7woSC0WkQ&s=C5UDsl9Q7px3neSOkodI29P56nkCWiOHjrGcI9ie2Gk&e= 
>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.calstatela.edu_faculty_ann-2Dgarry&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HUp8-bkYMlNgd3ZJBxWBKsBsFAFGHrEZg21p9gxugJA&m=Z0jpcXz_SIj8ix7TiUOVIxUrOTXkcsipb33sxSZ5VaQ&s=uUbq8Yj2IHHCPIVYYAG1KXxfS5mMzPKwVqp57Zlw6hA&e=>
>>>>>>>>> *
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>>>>> Serene
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Serene J. Khader, Ph.D
>>>>>>>> Jay Newman Chair in Philosophy of Culture
>>>>>>>> Associate Professor of Philosophy, Brooklyn College
>>>>>>>> Associate Professor of Philosophy and Women's Studies, CUNY
>>>>>>>> Graduate Center
>>>>>>>> pronouns: she/her/hers
>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>> www.serenekhader.com
>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.serenekhader.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HUp8-bkYMlNgd3ZJBxWBKsBsFAFGHrEZg21p9gxugJA&m=X1-eCb8FYbH3nixiy1tuTBbAD-CM8yZwxqHqu6CSduY&s=fQEHX9Aw51rksRBz69rWay_TBVU9ZHAa004BFuujARY&e=>
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>> Philosophy Department
>> Swarthmore College
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