Thank G. I was actually thinking about commenting on the "people at the center", as we are the ones responsible for creating the maps and the depictions represent the human perception. That could be interpreted an anthropocentric, but I don't think that's the intent here. And situated contexts are definitely key, in my view, to understanding morality and empathy. For example, there's a reason why there's a world of difference between "farm animals" and "house animals." The basic principle is well-known and I'd argue one of the fundamental "laws of nature": the greater the social distance (um, not in the suddenly popularized sense of that term!), the easier it is to dehumanize and even kill the other. People worry less about dogs than humans, less about ants than dogs, and so on. "And a rock feels no pain, and an island never cries..." Best, -j
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it elicits in me a wonderment about: 1) what would define 'good' and 'bad' in this context, 2) wondering what the value might be in dividing the core of people behaviors into binaries of such good/bad absolutisms, 3) why are the 'people' are the core? is this b/c we are that species and we are seeing through our own perceptions? and 4) what would it look like to move towards illuminating complexity in behavioral interactivity, expanding the variables that are embedded in present choices towards empathy in situated contexts rather than good/bad singularities.
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Hi Gregg et al. The diagram outlines succinctly the different levels or dimensions of behavioral complexity (there's ongoing debate as to whether to refer to these as "levels" or "dimensions", but let's set that aside for the moment).
Where the diagram needs further clarification would be at the center. There's a descriptive logic, or the same type of evaluative stance that applies to each of the outer rings: an "is" type of ontic logic. At the inner core, however, you have shifted the logic to a type of moral evaluation or an implied "ought" or "should" frame of reference. Further to Zak's point, in a way, note that humans then do not merely evaluate the behavior of other humans, but we evaluate ALL of the other behaviors in both descriptive/scientific and moral/normative ways. For example, I'm struck by how almost every day I'll read a headline such as "Storm Blamed for Destroying over $50 million in Properties" or "COVID-19 Blamed for X Deaths" or "Pit Bull Blames for Killing Child". There's often an implicit moralistic type of evaluation that's applied to other entities, almost as forms of agentic behavior, when "bad things happen."
So, I'm just not clear on the logic of the metaphysical shift as currently outlined, since people evaluate every aspect of the universe (and the supernatural for that matter too!). Anyway, that's my "read" of the diagram without further explication on your part. Best, -Joe
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Hi TOK List,
I wonder if this diagram elicits any reaction on the concept of behavior…note that the outer ring refers to the concept of object field change in general, which can be represented mathematically. For example, via three Cartesian coordinates of space and one of time…
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