@Jamie,

Really interesting and coincidental!  I’ve been working on designing a
similar system architecture for an open knowledge commons for humanity
(OKCH) based on linguistic atoms. The same system can be used for both an
open source journal of journals, as well as an anytime pedagogic system
treating all students as lifetime learners. I’m currently outlining a
skeleton for a position paper on the system architecture to help
consolidate the diversity of ideas required to build such a system. It
needs to be pursued as a commons project that belongs to humanity and not
controlled by corporate entities, hence I’m preparing it to present to the
Peer to Peer Foundation.

It leverages the important idea of aspectualization, which John and Gregg
introduced into my own salience landscape through their dialogues. As a
prototype, I was thinking of presenting all the different strands of ideas
discussed in this group. In this way, different clusters of ideas appear in
different parts of 3d linguistic space. The idea is that our representation
of reality is a gestalt that is the sum of our collective intelligence and
the linguistic representation via knowledge graphs can be aspectualized by
looking from different perspectives at the total knowledge gestalt. I plan
to represent the book I am currently writing in this new media format. My
citations will simply directly connect to other complete works of knowledge
that are represented within the same knowledge graph gestalt. For instance,
I will cite Gregg and John’s work so i will seek permission to encode their
books and papers into the knowledge graph. The more related,  independent
research articles, papers and books it can represent, the richer the
entangled knowledge graph and the more effortless a user can understand and
paint a complete picture of reality.

Currently, all knowledge thatis digitised is represented in binary code
which is devoid of knowledge relationships. In this way, digital technology
is being used as a fascimile for text written in books and on paper. Just
as text written on paper becomes fixed, digital information displays the
same rigidity. High dimensionality knowledge graphs will unlock the
disruptive potential of digital technology to create a quantum leap in
knowledge representation.

This cannot be done with current generation of technology however, due to
the permutation explosion problem that associated with linguistic
representation of such vast amounts of information. That’s why next
generation technologies must be explored to achieve it.

I see the work done in this group as belonging to half the important work
for bottom up, rapid whole system change relating to human inner
transformation (HIT). The other important work is the social outer
transformation (SOT) via implementing metrics for measuring planetary
boundaries at a practical scale so that citizens in cities and communities
can rebuild civilization at a local level, guided by local, downscaled
metrics that give them meaningful targets to aim towards. So my other work
is engaged with planetary scientists to develop those metrics, and with
other groups working on strategic on-the-ground strategies to build local,
circular economies such as industrial hemp supply chsins that can create
entire circular supply chains. However, an OKCH is a critical component to
act as a framework for both HIT and SET. Given that we have about 5 to 10
years to avoid 1.5 deg c mean global temp, a proxy metric for an entire
gestalt of biospheric destruction, the work we need to do as a civilization
is unprecedented, especially given the degree of collective ignorance that
keeps us moving at a snails pace when we should be moving at supersonic
speed.

On Sat, 17 Apr 2021 at 23:36, Jamie D <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

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> Hey ToKers,
>
>
> I'm working on a web prototype I hope to finish by August. It's a very
> basic version of a collective intelligence that integrates all user inputs
> into what I and my friends call "thought-demographics"...so like, "I drink
> Green Tea" would be a demographic, with a population of those who share the
> same expression....or any expression one might care to make.
>
>
> The following is some of the theory behind it that still blows my mind
> every time I bother to look deeply into it.
>
>
> Theoretic Limits of RealTalk.ai (not online yet)
>
> (Hint: there’s no limit. The concept behind the prototype IS the
> Singularity, the big one, the one TOO BIG TO SEE. While the prototype
> RealTalk.ai is intended to utilize well-known aspects of social networks,
> the concept of integrating symbolic expressions to form a collective,
> interactive representation of society is boundless, inevitable,
> mindblowingly valuable, and stunningly powerful.)
>
> *The closest thing I've found out there so far to the central concept is collaborative
> filtering, used for netflix recommendations.
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Collaborative-5Ffiltering&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=3SaRqjzoJBjmZLaZ7ON58DSlV3pHvFXkt1xeFQYlroU&s=MS9kuYqGfHsU-S0VLIiM9o2Aoi10uj6-bVKZW_3QrOI&e= 
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>
>
> A similar concept will be used to further integrate society into
> collective intelligence.
>
>
>    -
>
>    It is akin to the transition from kingdoms to democracies - harnessing
>    greater collective input for greater social union. This time, everyone is
>    president, ...at least somewhat...who knows?
>    -
>
>    As you read this, try to think of a better way to protect the future
>    from AI tyranny, autocracy, idiocracy, or any other existential threat
>    to society.
>    -
>
>    The principle will be the structure for entirely new economies and
>    social systems, and the entire internet a stage or two from now.
>    -
>
>    Ego and profit-motive are the causes of all problems in medicine,
>    science, academia, ..everything. EGO IS ALL.Yet, we are still being
>    domesticated by one-another, and the culture of egioc denial is dying, as
>    our nature so obvious on the media.
>    -
>
>    The principle will radically augment the following industries and more:
>    -
>
>       Utilizing crowd epidemiology - potentially curing all diseases.
>       -
>
>       It will be the greatest social science database of all time.
>       -
>
>       It will replace the current political charade.
>       -
>
>       Identity politics will be obliterated by egoic exhaustion and the
>       clear-seeing of the hidden values of other groups in the safety of our
>       homes.
>       -
>
>       Once it gets a foothold, it will never end, but further integrate
>       towards, and as, the Singularity...but not like it’s been conceived so
>       far...
>
>
>
>
> The concept:
>
> RealTalk.ai is a prototype collective intelligence in the works, based on
> the inevitable principles of cultural evolution and the integration of
> broader human intelligence.
>
> While RealTalk.ai is merely a prototype, the concept is inevitable, and
> massive.
>
>
> image 2:
>
>
> image 3
>
>
>
> Each user will have their own set of endorsed or created expressions.
>
>
> The only risk of privacy is triangulation and estmate.
>
>
> Users can research their society's values in depth.
>
>
> At least, small groups and companies can use this, but *my prediction is
> that the general idea is a leap in the evolution of culture. *
>
> Old news: Humans are cyborgs, and have been since our tool and symbol use
> began domesticating us.
>
> New news: Every Human Mind is a kind of artificial intelligence already,
> as we design our minds...but who designs the mind? I contend each human
> baby is a kind of AI cultural engineer, a loop between the body-mind and
> surrounding culture, who cultivates an emergent Tree of Intellect in both
> the individual mind and the community.
>
> Just as culture is inherently technological, so it is with our minds. New
> words, concepts, and ways are continually invented, internalized. And,
> hungry for info, the mind, like an organism unto itself, endlessly seeks to
> copulate with novelty to give birth to some prestige-offering
> thought-baby:  a trend that will offer or further increase status, a
> long-life of glory.
>
> The system of symbols in each human brain is an emergent Tree of
> Knowledge. Young children never know what they will learn or become, but as
> their Tree rises higher, they acquire a greater view of their landscape,
> their reality, whether they emphasize the physical, natural, or various
> social or other landscapes.
>
> Intelligence is evolutionary, systemic and emergent, but also, I contend,
> essential to our very being, our presence. Intelligence is already
> infinite, analogue, and combined with increasingly definable stuff.  For it
> is that ineffable whatever, the “I-Am-ness”, that’s behind all the
> mappable aspects of mind, and it’s like a bottomless white hole. And it’s
> YOU.
>
> *Personally, I’m confident the duality between the known / knowable and
> the unknown / unknowable will never end, yet the former will likely grow
> forever as it encroaches on the ladder, both infinite, but that’s too
> philosophical for this paper.
>
>
> Now, about RealTalk.ai:
>
> Imagine each person on the planet copied their mind/memeplex to the web, (as
> we are already, just not organized, NOT YET INTEGRATED, but soon to be...)
> such that every shared meme bridged any two or more people into a tribe or
> “thought-demographic”.
>
> But first, some big-picture stuff on the evolution of culture and tech:
>
> The most constant trend in cosmic evolution, including culture and
> technology…
>
>  (other than the 2nd law of thermodynamics (entropy, or, according to the
> big picture, what I call the expansion of evolutionary possibilities)
>
> …..Is the accelerating integration of increasing complexity.
>
> Just LOOK:
>
> Earth was a molten rock…
>
> ...then hardly a biosphere,
>
> …then the cambrian explosion,
>
> ...then early hominids, bands, tribes, kingdoms, parliaments,
> democracies...
>
> …industry, phone and airlines, then the web, social networks…
>
> ...each stage both more complex and integrated than before.
>
>
> “Historically, we have seen an overarching trend towards the emergence of
> higher levels of social organization, from hunter-gatherer bands, to
> chiefdoms, city-states, nation states, and now multinational organizations,
> regional alliances, various international governance structures, and other
> aspects of globalization. Extrapolation of this trend points to the
> creation of a SINGLETON.” - Nick Bostrom.
>
> SINGLETON -   a world order in which there is a single decision-making
> agency at the highest level.
>
> It’s in Nick Bostrom’s interest to shout wolf. I would if I were him, and
> believe it too as that too would be in my interest were I in his shoes. But
> from where I look, the inevitable singleton must be collective AND
> singular at the same time.
>
> Journey into this concept and you will continually find more and more
> epiphanies, an endless resource for the practical dreamer. Your vision for
> the future will rise so high above your peers, you won’t speak their
> language anymore.
>
> I’ve written hundreds of pages on this idea, and feel like I’ve barely
> scratched the surface. It’s TOO BIG TO SEE. Maybe some people have more
> trouble visualizing the endless, accelerating integration of complexity,
> let alone come up with a prototype that harnesses the principles.
>
> One thing this has is moral power...but moral power is a popularity
> contest that only bends to the truth when it has to.
>
>
>
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