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Deepak Loomba <[log in to unmask]>
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Gregg,

Forgot to add an important element -/*"Evolution of everything 
(universe) is nothing but creation & enhancement of internal (lesser 
complexity) properties". Birth of human is no different. We are quite 
like expanding concentric circles, such that the outer ones annihilate 
as newer ones are born at the centre. One's internal world keep on 
constantly getting richer and bigger, till one bursts into nothing 
(death), while one's progeny starts undergoing the same process.
*/

/*"Universe is the process of growth of internal."*/

This is also proven by increasing information entropy.

TY (Truly yours)
DL (Deepak Loomba)


On 10/30/2020 4:49 PM, Deepak Loomba wrote:
>
> Gregg,
>
> While I do not intend to respond on the entire literature as I have 
> not studied it. But I desire to comment & clarify on the homogeneity 
> issue in early universe, as I have done some work on it and indeed 
> some conclusions form part of my book - "Awareness & Consciousness - 
> Discovery, distinction and evolution". Homogeneity is an obvious 
> outcome of ultra high event density. In a tiny universe, in fact there 
> cannot be the concept of homogeneity as there is no time. Simple 
> example/illustration - look at a rubber band & one feels it to be 
> pretty regular in size. Now stretch is far and you see the gross 
> irregularities in its thickness and size. The irregularities can be 
> seen because they are beyond human observation when the rubber band is 
> unstretched.
>
> Now let me put this in a different prospective. Get a group of young 
> boys and girls to dance very very energetically on music, subject to 
> the constraint that they have to maintain their whole body within the 
> contraint of a circular rope, which is constantly reduced in radius.
>
>
> As the circle is reduced, collisions start occurring amongst them.
> At 2nd stage, when they are jostled together literally, with no space 
> left between them, they will loose their own vector. Which makes the 
> group scaler (time is still alive, as it is scaler) because they can 
> no longer move in different directions, but move together in tandem as 
> a group.
> At 3rd stage, when they are further squeezed, the group will have no 
> possibility to even move in tandem & unison. Motor interaction among 
> them ceases. They know become a particle-like, which means they have 
> no internal properties. But only have external properties. But at the 
> same time it has to be noted that the universe is one point without 
> internal properties and internal time. Assuming there is no observer 
> outside. There is no time at all! Termination of internal properties 
> terminates the possibility of concept of homogeneity (in absence of 
> time) though of course no one stops calling this condition 100% 
> homogeneity.
>
> Hope I have been able to clarify the idea of homogeneity in early 
> universe in a analogous intuitive way for those with dislike of 
> mathematics.
>
> TY
> DL
>
>
>
> On 10/29/2020 2:02 AM, Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx wrote:
>>
>> Hi TOK Folks,
>>
>>   I have been trailing Roger Penrose’s work lately and found this 20 
>> min description fascinating, because it captures my intuition about 
>> the nature of the universe.
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DypjZF6Pdrws&d=DwID-g&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=tJREt_Xh9LrmR70rtp7FX64K0Ka2885MuyWvyRHJRms&s=gszm-7OkkEQWAgkhMnn7FonDDUn692LJnD9Xs937wLI&e= 
>>
>>   My intuition has always been that the universe emerges out of an 
>> energy singularity from another dimension. For example, our universe 
>> is akin to a black hole in another universe on the “other side” of 
>> our singularity. When I learned of dark energy, I wondered if it 
>> might be a field around our universe that it is expanding into that 
>> will “circle back around” into a collapse back into a singularity. 
>> Here is Penrose giving a talk a couple of days ago that basically 
>> narrates this idea. That is cool. What he is missing from my theory 
>> is that it is “dark energy” that will “collect” the dispersed 
>> radiation and collapse it back into the singularity that starts the 
>> next phase in the universe anew.
>>
>>   The idea is that once in a singularity state, a remarkable 
>> “stochastic event” happens, whereby the photonic-gluonic pure 
>> energy/radiation plasma encounters a symmetry breaking phase shift, 
>> which starts a chain reaction that turns energy into matter. (Note, 
>> the symmetry breaking has to do with spin and the fact that a 
>> substantial set of bosons (i.e., gluons and photons) are knocked into 
>> a different ½ spin vector which turns them into fermions with follow 
>> the Pauli Exclusion principle).  This, BTW, does account for 
>> Penrose’s concern about the homogeneity of the early universe and the 
>> problem he scratches his head over regarding the second law and the 
>> issue of entropy.
>>
>> Best,
>> Gregg
>>
>> ___________________________________________
>>
>> Gregg Henriques, Ph.D.
>> Professor
>> Department of Graduate Psychology
>> 216 Johnston Hall
>> MSC 7401
>> James Madison University
>> Harrisonburg, VA 22807
>> (540) 568-7857 (phone)
>> (540) 568-4747 (fax)
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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