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Some of her performance art feels like humanity, ripping through a fabric
of its amniotic sac, waters and all, just prior to birth.


On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 6:27 AM Deepak Loomba <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_ASB07-2Dv-5FADM&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=m_zrNgrPveEfTRqQLDF6cMqRz3tst38AnwKr3TFVzhY&s=Q7rUl6g752zzjzpDXR6uIgzHXiDoEki3fOyAAn8hKzA&e= 
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_ASB07-2Dv-5FADM&d=DwMDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=kgqPZWOkI08klwZjvai-5bZDufsvgpfoVnO2-B0VgZE&s=lMqihi55LH67aiMWE46r6mwcBCXPNPCvlsFqxcl2wxU&e=>
>
> Check Marina Abramovich's Performance Art. Very psychological work.
>
>
> TY
> Deepak Loomba
>
>
> On 9/26/2020 12:21 AM, James Lyons-Weiler wrote:
>
> Thank you. I'm writing a treatise on this inspired by our discussions that
> is a little mind-blowing.
>
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 2:48 PM Bradley H. Werrell, D.O. <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Wonderful post by Jack.
>>
>> I particularly liked this element;
>>
>> We are shaved apes with self-referential G x E cognitive plasticities
>> with emergences such as self awareness, culture, traditions, external
>> memory devices (books etc) which also provide further E influences, and we
>> are currently using the cognitive plasticities to try to understand them.
>>
>>
>> I would hasten to edit only a little bit this quote, such that what Jack
>> is calling "emergences" to be "emergencies," for it appears that such
>> development is always associated with some crisis of being as manifest in
>> our human condition.
>>
>> We are in one now.
>>
>>
>> Bradley
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bradley H. Werrell, D.O. - This email is private and copyrighted by the
>> author.
>>
>> On Friday, September 25, 2020, 08:40:57 AM MST, James Lyons-Weiler <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Greg,
>>
>> I agree w/you.
>>
>> My interjection of course is not meant to replace or explain everything,
>> evolutionary causes are not sufficient at all, but they are a necessary
>> (but insufficient) starting place.
>>
>> I know you agree that ToK would be incomplete without evolutionary
>> starting points.
>>
>> Our ancestral legacies, such as hormones, absolutely *influence* us and
>> what can be studied at the higher levels.
>>
>> Most evolutionary biologists would not, I think, presume to think
>> seriously that we are merely shaved apes.
>>
>> We're so much more than that.
>>
>> We are shaved apes with self-referential G x E cognitive plasticities
>> with emergences such as self awareness, culture, traditions, external
>> memory devices (books etc) which also provide further E influences, and we
>> are currently using the cognitive plasticities to try to understand them.
>>
>> Our collective minds then become a landscape upon which a collective
>> intelligence about the world (including ourselves); it is an evolving
>> collective intelligence, fluid, subject to mutation and selection.   BIT
>> and JUST are very useful and more general places within which this truth
>> resides and bridge to societal tendencies and emergences.
>>
>> Another way to say this is that we really need to consider Cognitive
>> Plastic Phenotype (CPP) = G x E^2
>>
>> At the same time, to me, ToK by definition is a beautiful and
>> comprehensive *example* of those activities (unless you've had external
>> influences you're not telling us about) :)   Philosophers of logic can have
>> fun trying to reconcile how specific examples such as ToK can or cannot be
>> explained by themselves; your invocation of non-theistic metaphysics gives
>> hypothetical framework which also represents an example of the competing
>> ideas residing in the collective intelligence, but to me it's not an
>> escape.  I don't see ToK as tautological though-  because as any model
>> approaches sufficiency and completeness, it often becomes indistinguishable
>> from reality.
>>
>> Convergence of quantum mechanics reconciled with general relativity will
>> also seem obvious (unless GR needs to be replaced with an update).
>>
>> Thus, well done!
>>
>> I imagine that a self-help book "Embrace The Shaved Ape Within You" would
>> be fun.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 11:09 AM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for this reply. This opens up a whole host of issues that I have
>> long wrestled with, so I will not dive into the details.
>>
>>
>>
>> The short reply I will offer is that (a) evolutionary does provide an
>> absolutely necessary lens to understand human behavior and (b) it is not
>> straightforward to go from an evolutionary biological analysis to
>> understanding human mental behavior.
>>
>>
>>
>> The reason why can be framed by the ToK System. You can’t just go from
>> the second joint point (even a sophisticated evo devo synthesis) to human
>> behavior without going through BIT first, then JUST. Even then you aren’t
>> done, because you have grapple with fact-value issues. Steve Quackenbush
>> will be talking about how the problem of value haunts psychology in a
>> future TOK Community meeting.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, short answer is, yes, I agree it is crucial to have the lens, and it
>> is also the case that it needs to be qualified by considerations that I
>> generally find evolutionary biologists to be blind to. For example, Bret
>> Weinstein, god love him, way over shoots in his analysis of the extend to
>> which you can apply straight forward evolutionary biological thinking to
>> things like religion. Once you get the JUST frame right, then you can see
>> why analyses like his are, well, profoundly incomplete.
>>
>> For a few essays on evolutionary psychology, see here:
>>
>> First, on why, from a UTOK perspective, evo psych comes up short:
>>
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_theory-2Dknowledge_201310_ep-2Dis-2Dnot-2Dviable-2Dintegrative-2Dmeta-2Dtheory&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=m_zrNgrPveEfTRqQLDF6cMqRz3tst38AnwKr3TFVzhY&s=MDrEGEH8hGdMmK3TbxHvWmHGWN8RZEokL9IKwEGekBw&e= 
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_theory-2Dknowledge_201310_ep-2Dis-2Dnot-2Dviable-2Dintegrative-2Dmeta-2Dtheory&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=EAKsDwUYpPwFHnnc_fuGs08K9YDw9VM53f6-h7dwxb0&s=IsYUJOHIQE0sKFSNLW47nVdX6qgWbAj7Jsn9N5zK9yg&e=>
>>
>>
>>
>> a critique of my critique:
>>
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_pop-2Dpsych_201310_evolutionary-2Dpsychology-2Dtying-2Dpsychology-2Dtogether&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=m_zrNgrPveEfTRqQLDF6cMqRz3tst38AnwKr3TFVzhY&s=_HqxmVJNx144Uzq9oBHL17nA7103fCmtRqjBMeRclL0&e= 
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_pop-2Dpsych_201310_evolutionary-2Dpsychology-2Dtying-2Dpsychology-2Dtogether&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=EAKsDwUYpPwFHnnc_fuGs08K9YDw9VM53f6-h7dwxb0&s=2hvuEvwlQklq0796MXr7iDHdzzOnG93vF14kCyWkCBk&e=>
>>
>>
>>
>> and my critique of that:
>>
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_theory-2Dknowledge_201310_rhetoric-2Ddebate-2Dand-2Ddialogue-2Dabout-2Dep&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=m_zrNgrPveEfTRqQLDF6cMqRz3tst38AnwKr3TFVzhY&s=Tg40lwZ6Pfa5JwOvtQlbRRfoc6H774s4N4IoUBrojC4&e= 
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_theory-2Dknowledge_201310_rhetoric-2Ddebate-2Dand-2Ddialogue-2Dabout-2Dep&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=EAKsDwUYpPwFHnnc_fuGs08K9YDw9VM53f6-h7dwxb0&s=joTLV5q7Oaxr22sNQRsP_kiSy9sJgKxpPCdKROK_3UU&e=>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Gregg
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* tree of knowledge system discussion <
>> [log in to unmask]>*On Behalf Of *James Lyons-Weiler
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 25, 2020 8:32 AM
>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>> *Subject:* Re: Reevaluating Beliefs
>>
>>
>>
>> Quick evolutionary interjection Gregg-
>>
>>
>>
>> To me, it is utterly ironic that the brain that creates and conducts
>> reason, science and logic seek hopelessly to apply the same
>>
>> set of mental frameworks to understand its own irrationality.  Achieving
>> that goal is, at best, only sometimes possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> One way to make sense is to surmise that perhaps in many irrationalities
>> there underlies a rationality that transcends our minds.
>>
>> An evolutionary explanation of  love, for example, by most seen as
>> irrational, is pair-bonding that leads to survival of offspring.  Birds
>> dancing in unison serves the same purpose and has no other rational
>> explanation.
>>
>>
>>
>> So in couples' counseling, sometimes aggression/control can be seen as
>> having, ultimately, a rational impetus as part of a
>>
>> genetic repertoire of behavioral options for spousal manipulation/control
>> to reinforce the contract of the pair bond.  It is of course also
>>
>> rational to understand that alternative means may be more effective.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sufficiently schooled in the history of evolutionary psychology
>> to stand firm here on this, and the testability criticism weakness
>> (appropriately) in  my view the "instant validation" of the evolutionary
>> explanation, however, a systematic analysis of dysfunctional behavior that
>>
>> begins with the analysis of the couple as part of the larger sociological
>> set to which they belong, and to the species to which they belong,
>>
>> tells us that as a bonded, married couple, they are best understood as
>> being a couple that belongs to a species whose members not merely sometimes
>> partake in serial monogamy, promiscuity, parental investment; that the two
>> genders are expected to have different investment strategies, with
>> distinctly different evolutionary stable strategies being expected in the
>> gender, indeed the same person at different times in life,
>>
>> depending on many cues.
>>
>>
>>
>> It is not to belittle the human mind or the species to acknowledge the
>> evolutionary legacy that gives us these complex organs a starting point.
>>
>>
>>
>> There is, then the reality that we recently have come through an amazing
>> but shallow history shifting us from hunter/gatherer tribes in small
>>
>> populations to increasingly larger populations with a decreasing role of
>> small group dynamics; potential mates are no longer rarer, and in our
>> cognitive hyperplasticity phenotype we see that we are adaptable to new
>> norms and laws so we can learn that wife-beating, for example, is wrong;
>> society may provide alternative cues that tell men (or abusive women) that
>> it's not unusual, and police responses can misguide men (or women) into a
>> pattern by misaligning the cues to which they respond, triggering further
>> abuse or dysfunction.  These environmental inputs matter more than defining
>> situational context; they provide the E in the G x E interaction of human
>> cognitive phenotypic hyperplasticity without resorting to reductionism.
>>
>>
>>
>> The phenotype of cognitive flexibility has a rational ultimate basis in
>> evolution; those who fail to adapt to societal norms being taken out of the
>> gene pool via imprisonment, death, shunning... we can begin to grasp a
>> comprehension of the otherwise incomprehensible without for a moment saying
>> that we are subject to any particular fate by our genes.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 7:51 AM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Lee,
>>
>>
>>
>>   My analysis of the BEVI is complicated. Moreover, I no longer work much
>> with Craig Shealy, and I know it as evolved some, but I can’t really
>> comment much on where it is or respond to these questions with any
>> authority.
>>
>>
>>
>>  But I do have some thoughts about these issues. From where I sit (i.e.,
>> my scientific, humanistic metapsychology theory of knowledge) I sometimes
>> find that you attempt to apply a model of scientific realism to all domains
>> of human belief, but that feels to me inadequate. Indeed, much of human
>> activity, engagement, fighting about what is real, take place in domains
>> that are not amenable to being analyzed via a scientific realist
>> onto-epistemology. The reason is because the onto-epistemological
>> belief-value subjective networks are all tied up with the issue at hand.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Here is blog that gets at what I mean that enters the world of couple’s
>> therapy
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_theory-2Dknowledge_201504_your-2Dversion-2Dreality-2Dand-2Dmine&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=lhaBGK2LX7aK2UmOFg-A_U3Oe-9d-sgiYPcjVv8P1nI&s=MBmX823KaeKpPx6fL78IBov0_rUZFhVCpLyk6dcYYtM&e=>.
>> Note, it incorporates Shealy’s Version of Reality concept that was
>> discussed in that paper.
>>
>>
>>
>>   I agree that a scientific realist onto-epistemology can provide a frame
>> for the couple. But I don’t think it is adequate for much of the work. Take
>> the husband’s claim: “You are a liar”. Is that a fact that corresponds to
>> reality? I don’t think there is a simple answer here (e.g., a case could
>> easily be made that the wife exaggerated and misrepresented and sometimes
>> “lied”, but does that justify the trait-based claim? What is the reality
>> here? It is not like the shape of the Earth). This is why I think you need
>> more of a humanistic, values-based, relational developmental social
>> construction of reality frame to deal with issues like this. The reality of
>> the relationship is constructed by their actions and justifications. Thus,
>> the observer of an independent reality that is the supposition of a
>> scientific realism does not work very well in everyday, idiographic,
>> interpersonal engagements. I am guessing that this is why the
>> professional/practicing psychologists found your very interesting take to
>> be insufficient to deal with the subjective and value-based intersubjective
>> domains that are so apparent in the therapy room.
>>
>>
>>
>>   Love to get your take on this.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Gregg
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* tree of knowledge system discussion <
>> [log in to unmask]>*On Behalf Of *Leland Beaumont
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 24, 2020 11:50 AM
>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>> *Subject:* Re: Reevaluating Beliefs
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Rob,
>>
>> I enjoyed watching your google talks video (twice!) I am looking forward
>> to your forum presentation.
>>
>>
>>
>> At 39:50 in the video you use the phrase “useful truth” and then go on to
>> say that “truth is weird”.
>>
>>
>>
>> In my “seeking real good” talk I stated that “truth corresponds to
>> reality”. I also mentioned that reality is vast, complex, and dynamic.
>>
>>
>>
>> When we get a chance, I would like to discuss the distinctions between
>> “useful truth” and “correspondence to reality” especially in considering
>> the question of “Where was Barack Obama born?”
>>
>>
>>
>> Gregg, thanks for the EI, BEVI paper; it is very helpful.
>>
>>
>>
>> I notice the paper lacks explicit reference to reality as a primary and
>> unifying frame of reference for acquiring, assessing, and accepting or
>> rejecting beliefs. On page 95 it is claimed the counselor has an “…ethical
>> obligation to adopt client's values and beliefs.”  I argue there is an
>> obligation (perhaps even more compelling) to assess and influence those
>> beliefs toward true beliefs, consistent with our best understanding of
>> reality. Also the 10 process scales from the BEVI lack an item for
>> "cognitive contact with reality" – reflecting the relevance of empirical
>> evidence in forming beliefs. (e.g. I believe the earth is nearly spherical
>> because in fact (based on the correspondence to reality, learning that
>> expert exploration of the earth provides representative evidence that the
>> earth is nearly spherical) the earth*is *nearly spherical.) (P99) It
>> also does not (explicitly) address "personal epistemology" –what is the
>> process you use to choose your beliefs.
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric, thanks for identifying the importance of Post-Traumatic growth.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lee Beaumont
>>
>> *From:* tree of knowledge system discussion <
>> [log in to unmask]>*On Behalf Of *easalien
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 22, 2020 6:16 PM
>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>> *Subject:* Reevaluating Beliefs
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey Leland, Having been on both sides of the equation, I can say change
>> is often a response to trauma, real or perceived. It’s a form of adaptive
>> behavior driven by adverse circumstances. Very rarely do comfortable people
>> change.
>>
>>
>>
>> Most of you I’m sure have heard of PTSD. The other side of that is
>> Post-Traumatic Growth. This article sums it up nicely:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__blogs.scientificamerican.com_beautiful-2Dminds_post-2Dtraumatic-2Dgrowth-2Dfinding-2Dmeaning-2Dand-2Dcreativity-2Din-2Dadversity_&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=m_zrNgrPveEfTRqQLDF6cMqRz3tst38AnwKr3TFVzhY&s=tsIy_XUfYsSTWpELljMIQ4levl1ASmYZBjFxAJ2dhGI&e= 
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__blogs.scientificamerican.com_beautiful-2Dminds_post-2Dtraumatic-2Dgrowth-2Dfinding-2Dmeaning-2Dand-2Dcreativity-2Din-2Dadversity_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=FE9YjbAkxcapLo-BOfWURIZDgaGBWZfogomrcPeIbAA&s=4tUV_boJFf2CL2mhoj_hZSXigbj4OUass2CL2U93atY&e=>
>>
>>
>>
>> With the clusterf*ck that is 2020, cherished beliefs are challenged and
>> people are retreating into entrenched ideologies or opening up to the
>> truth, which must be experienced a posteriori. Otherwise, it’s like a
>> scholar “explaining” war to a veteran. It rings hollow.
>>
>>
>>
>> Personally, abandoning unverified belief in exchange for verifiable truth
>> has brought a remarkable sense of balance. It’s taught me empathy and
>> gratitude as well as peace with uncertainty. With the world as it is, maybe
>> we need to take our philosophy and let it go.
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric S.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, September 17, 2020, Leland Beaumont <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> ToK Forum Members,
>>
>> Intrigued by questions that were raised when I presented Seeking Real
>> Good to this forum, I am researching the topic of “Reexamining Beliefs”. I
>> have recently read several books that pertain to forming beliefs and
>> defending long-held beliefs. What I am still curious to understand is the
>> triggers and introspective processes that result in people changing deeply
>> held beliefs. For example, why do some people reflect on their religious
>> beliefs and become non-theists? Why do people switch political parties,
>> what triggers the shift from “love you forever” to “divorce you now”, why
>> did some people shift from never Trump to Trump forever while Michael Cohen
>> turned against him? Why do some people leave cults and others double down?
>> What attracts people toward conspiracy theories and then what changes that
>> causes people to abandon those theories?
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to be able to describe a process each of us would be
>> motivated to use to reexamine our beliefs and progress toward true beliefs.
>>
>>
>>
>> I will appreciate it if you can recommend reliable references on this
>> topic.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Lee Beaumont
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Author, CEO, President, Scientist
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>> Editor-in-Chief, Science, Public Health Policy, and the Law
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>>
>> The Environmental and Genetic Causes of Autism
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__amzn.to_1KNSxPp&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=lhaBGK2LX7aK2UmOFg-A_U3Oe-9d-sgiYPcjVv8P1nI&s=fkWiuSIci7kBRcvjpA88YIhqcsd_BssV-AvpxG6Dy9k&e=>
>> (Skyhorse Publishing)
>>
>> Cures vs. Profits: Successes in Translational Research
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.amazon.com_gp_product_9814730149_ref-3Das-5Fli-5Fqf-5Fsp-5Fasin-5Fil-5Ftl-3Fie-3DUTF8-26camp-3D1789-26creative-3D9325-26creativeASIN-3D9814730149-26linkCode-3Das2-26tag-3Dlivgrelivwel-2D20&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=lhaBGK2LX7aK2UmOFg-A_U3Oe-9d-sgiYPcjVv8P1nI&s=FlDBIYP4ysnE6C5B6fFXR32RoMdH6KrmeaDLWYj4Uok&e=> (World
>> Scientific, 2016)
>>
>> Ebola: An Evolving Story
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__amzn.to_1TGYY9r&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=lhaBGK2LX7aK2UmOFg-A_U3Oe-9d-sgiYPcjVv8P1nI&s=77J4lhTu7CsgDk_qKxCklrFy3o0cut8DKig1YKw98rc&e=>
>> (World Scientific, 2015)
>>
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>> Editor-in-Chief, Science, Public Health Policy, and the Law
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.publichealthpolicyjournal.com_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=EAKsDwUYpPwFHnnc_fuGs08K9YDw9VM53f6-h7dwxb0&s=83_oSYU27XqLnf9yqzfAsLaNcZ_zuP-LA70_P2r3QRg&e=>
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>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__childrenshealthdefense.org&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=EAKsDwUYpPwFHnnc_fuGs08K9YDw9VM53f6-h7dwxb0&s=91JY9bY6FN6tPlwoeQfvVBxi_aLKQt6XhWYXSVjIJQU&e=>
>>
>> The Environmental and Genetic Causes of Autism
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__amzn.to_1KNSxPp&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=EAKsDwUYpPwFHnnc_fuGs08K9YDw9VM53f6-h7dwxb0&s=nPS92YqV9GsOCZms6pONmGvkpbnUM4zX7opAXbtN-hk&e=>
>> (Skyhorse Publishing)
>> Cures vs. Profits: Successes in Translational Research
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.amazon.com_gp_product_9814730149_ref-3Das-5Fli-5Fqf-5Fsp-5Fasin-5Fil-5Ftl-3Fie-3DUTF8-26camp-3D1789-26creative-3D9325-26creativeASIN-3D9814730149-26linkCode-3Das2-26tag-3Dlivgrelivwel-2D20&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=EAKsDwUYpPwFHnnc_fuGs08K9YDw9VM53f6-h7dwxb0&s=0tbW9v-IK64MGijZ5dxmvHqQco5krJAkB3pr41V6yoU&e=> (World
>> Scientific, 2016)
>> Ebola: An Evolving Story
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__amzn.to_1TGYY9r&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=EAKsDwUYpPwFHnnc_fuGs08K9YDw9VM53f6-h7dwxb0&s=coQ7Sb_eM2n6951CHuF71k1mGAR06yZWtsSed5_5eHg&e=>
>> (World Scientific, 2015)
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> james lyons-weiler, phd
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> Editor-in-Chief, Science, Public Health Policy, and the Law
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.publichealthpolicyjournal.com_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=eSz18KulCYitVgOyiZr64lLGIlkXEBykoveJT4zPlJ0&s=LMab95YMd02BTADLoD95raoq8669l1Wuv4xeWRAhv4s&e=>
> Guest Contributor, Children's Health Defense
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__childrenshealthdefense.org&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=eSz18KulCYitVgOyiZr64lLGIlkXEBykoveJT4zPlJ0&s=7JNgFGyG3jJ6CfkcMBI5szghQ5Fzg9xvXj4QCoXBNz4&e=>
>
> The Environmental and Genetic Causes of Autism
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__amzn.to_1KNSxPp&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=eSz18KulCYitVgOyiZr64lLGIlkXEBykoveJT4zPlJ0&s=bry_QVBv49D1OoWNFMfUHCKYqeEcuwBma9e5GGl9CiE&e=>
> (Skyhorse Publishing)
> Cures vs. Profits: Successes in Translational Research
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.amazon.com_gp_product_9814730149_ref-3Das-5Fli-5Fqf-5Fsp-5Fasin-5Fil-5Ftl-3Fie-3DUTF8-26camp-3D1789-26creative-3D9325-26creativeASIN-3D9814730149-26linkCode-3Das2-26tag-3Dlivgrelivwel-2D20&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=eSz18KulCYitVgOyiZr64lLGIlkXEBykoveJT4zPlJ0&s=aeST6O7rAMxM8mT3o5Po7eT2sFof6fgxzZ-LGi8VqO0&e=> (World
> Scientific, 2016)
> Ebola: An Evolving Story
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__amzn.to_1TGYY9r&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=eSz18KulCYitVgOyiZr64lLGIlkXEBykoveJT4zPlJ0&s=OK_3NYJPpX4m6Haw8eu6cRk8OJFYd_xDGy4lXwqicWw&e=>
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Author, CEO, President, Scientist
Editor-in-Chief, Science, Public Health Policy, and the Law
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.publichealthpolicyjournal.com_&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=m_zrNgrPveEfTRqQLDF6cMqRz3tst38AnwKr3TFVzhY&s=HuRYcEpgE2ZZt6lX4vhJXqefgW7dnj7PKbjAHNYnGHo&e= >
Guest Contributor, Children's Health Defense
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__childrenshealthdefense.org&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=m_zrNgrPveEfTRqQLDF6cMqRz3tst38AnwKr3TFVzhY&s=3dbONMhe0suYNRnIMr42lx-tnNEB1SahzUKvf2s6dTY&e= >

The Environmental and Genetic Causes of Autism <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__amzn.to_1KNSxPp&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=m_zrNgrPveEfTRqQLDF6cMqRz3tst38AnwKr3TFVzhY&s=niMi5iHSmS-JVKTqYzuIeM4b0f9mmsdH94fAtQEvLEY&e= >
(Skyhorse Publishing)
Cures vs. Profits: Successes in Translational Research
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.amazon.com_gp_product_9814730149_ref-3Das-5Fli-5Fqf-5Fsp-5Fasin-5Fil-5Ftl-3Fie-3DUTF8-26camp-3D1789-26creative-3D9325-26creativeASIN-3D9814730149-26linkCode-3Das2-26tag-3Dlivgrelivwel-2D20&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=m_zrNgrPveEfTRqQLDF6cMqRz3tst38AnwKr3TFVzhY&s=_rTQgG5okt_eVUjniiPxl_a4YxXU3yD37FNaLaeeu-E&e= >
(World
Scientific, 2016)
Ebola: An Evolving Story <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__amzn.to_1TGYY9r&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=m_zrNgrPveEfTRqQLDF6cMqRz3tst38AnwKr3TFVzhY&s=nuaCqZf-TeFPavU_2Cwt3g1qGEyZMXZ0MkE4oc28JBQ&e= > (World Scientific, 2015)
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