Thanks for a great presentation.
I want to better communicate an idea I struggled to express during the
Monday night forum.
The idea is that "we have no consistent prototype for the word 'justice'".
How do we learn the meaning of words? In the example of the word "tree" we
learn this that and the other are trees, and bushes, shrubs, flowers, grass
and cell towers are not trees. From these specific examples our language
brains construct a protype to link to the word (symbol) "tree".
Contrast this with learning the word "justice" How can we point to examples
of justice? A few examples form the past few months include neck kneeling,
commuting the sentences of Rodger Stone, and kidnapping demonstrators. A
broader sample ranges from "an eye for an eye" to broad reparations.
Theories of justice include retribution, restoration, remuneration,
rehabilitation, and more. I contend the we don't share any single concept
that converges to the word "justice". Equating justice with fairness is
problematic because fairness itself is at least three concepts
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ask "justice for whom", "justice when" and "justice why"..
While Waldemar described the difficulty learners (think young children) have
in grasping abstract concepts, I contend that the lack of a broadly accepted
prototype for various abstract words (such as "Justice") is a large part of
the problem. The word "Justice" is a composite of different concepts and
these differing concepts need to be extracted separately and named
separately to allow us to form a language prototype for each.
One approach might be to differentiate diverse classes of actions that we
now call "justice" and to take care to use that more specifically
descriptive word in our communications. For example, we can take care to use
terms such as "retributive justice" or "restorative justice".
Thanks,
Lee Beaumont
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Hi All,
Thanks so much to Waldemar for his excellent presentation on
Communication, Language, and Abstraction and the kind of thinking we need
for the 21st Century. I will be posting the video of it tomorrow unless any
of the participants object.
Warm regards,
Gregg
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Dear Friends:
Thank you each and all for listening and participating.
I have a couple of articles you might find interesting.
Best regards,
Waldemar
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