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Manuel Manga <[log in to unmask]>
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tree of knowledge system discussion <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 22 Sep 2020 21:25:06 -0700
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Hi James, all.
I like your podcast idea and ICE project.
I would like to be on the podcast offering a leadership and evolutionary
visions for a just, sustainable, and flourishing world.
Best,
Manuel Manga
www.evoleadinstitute.com


On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 2:44 PM James Lyons-Weiler <
[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> A proposal:
>
> I sense a Big Shift underway here.  Reaching the masses will take
> consistent effort.
>
> I'd like to propose a four-to-six person revolving *Intentional
> Consciousness Expansion *
> podcast, say, 2 hrs every 2 weeks.  Four core people on the screen at
> once, sometimes 1 or 2 more.
>
> My platform can host any number of podcasts (via  WWDNYK - What We Do Not
> Yet Know) - studios.
> No fee, but we'll pitch https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__patreon.com_WWDNYK&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=YLXr8ervA7BujM8gCtMX7fAFApD857ksr01w9N57NXw&s=279AZSwFG-xly5GacSOa8-nf2YflUDIRpmJ85PhlO8E&e= 
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__patreon.com_WWDNYK&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=VZJtLcpiYTu1sntQ3v3BVKp8kjAFthRo5p03dgCAfl8&s=ht13a2TaWUR8pHErfx4YopbzDYV9wm_DbC-J7MxJYPc&e=>
> to help keep to lights on.
>
> If we start with four core people we can occasionally add a few more.
> Round-robin discussion
> on the main topic of the day.  And related issues.  This community can
> make a list of topics and well go at them.
>
> Society's hurting, let's put a little ICE on it. Call it ICE. or Big
> Shift.  Your call on the name of the podcast,
> I'd be happy to host a few to work out the kinks and then fall into the
> background and re-emerge if I think I have
> something worth adding.
>
> I cannot believe I'm adding more to my calendar, but I have a sense this
> is a good thing.
>
> Let me know!
>
> JLW
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 5:11 PM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Thank you for this comment, Manuel. I very much agree that one of the
>> keys that was overlooked is the relationship between language,
>> self-consciousness adds key confusions. I also wish he was clear that the
>> only clear examples of consciousness we have are things that are first
>> alive, so it really is more how Matter becomes Life becomes conscious.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, let me extend a warm welcome to Manuel Manga, as he recently joined
>> the list. Manuel and I had a truly wonderful conversation the other week.
>> He has a magnificent and crucial vision for “evolutionary leadership
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__evolutionleader.com_pages_manuel-2Dmanga_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=VZJtLcpiYTu1sntQ3v3BVKp8kjAFthRo5p03dgCAfl8&s=HwG5mt4DrdLeucFE8trq4pm5tJfMlovGdzJeJbkZjdE&e=>”,
>> which is desperately needed in this time between worlds. His
>> humanistic/spiritual/scientific vision is very congruent with the ToK
>> System and larger Unified Theory Of Knowledge and I am thrilled he has
>> joined our community. It is worth noting that he worked with Humberto
>> Maturana, who, along with Francisco Valera. wrote the ground breaking book,
>>  *The Tree of Knowledge: The Biological Roots of Human Understanding
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.amazon.com_Tree-2DKnowledge-2DBiological-2DRoots-2DUnderstanding_dp_0877736421&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=VZJtLcpiYTu1sntQ3v3BVKp8kjAFthRo5p03dgCAfl8&s=1Doxw75yKx4ABtBbWTBKk36uJX5mv9wRsGJ-IqH5FKY&e=>*.
>> My naming my system the Tree of Knowledge in the 2000s was, somewhat
>> embarrassingly, completely coincidental. If I had done a better job in my
>> literature review, I would have come across there work. Nonetheless, it was
>> very affirming to read as it was a brilliant exposition that offered one of
>> the most advanced, consilient pictures of human knowledge that had been
>> offered to date.
>>
>>
>>
>> I look forward to future conversations and possible collaborations.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Gregg
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* tree of knowledge system discussion <
>> [log in to unmask]> *On Behalf Of *Manuel Manga
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 22, 2020 3:15 PM
>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>> *Subject:* Re: Sam Harris Six Minute Clip
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> I agree that matter gives rise to consciousness. physics to chemistry to
>> biology to brain, to mind, to language. to me language is key to self and
>> consciousness.
>>
>> i wish that harris and others spent less time worrying about robots, the
>> matrix and ai, and he would focused more on how we can transform-evolve our
>> minds- consciousness-meta-narratives from a destructive species toward a
>> more sustainable-ethical- and flourishing species.
>>
>>
>>
>> we are heading toward some big crisis, so let's be part academics-part
>> evolutionary leaders.
>>
>> best,
>>
>> manuel manga
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 6:33 AM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>>   I thought this 6 minute clip on consciousness was worthwhile:
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DLpaDlIlqygE&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=YLXr8ervA7BujM8gCtMX7fAFApD857ksr01w9N57NXw&s=nQga6nbEHciCXlMYiEkuFbnVQTHWplByr2R2n0TDCC8&e= 
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DLpaDlIlqygE&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=2FLqeiUFHf77Lo3raMI1QZAmIRjUxqXYC5HlbkqP5Ro&s=t49LFwBP5LSG1xmnqwKZ3-LKlRH7a_1qhPnJ-L5hRQc&e=>
>>
>>
>>
>>   Of course, with the BM3 solution, we can make significant advances in
>> the “descriptive metaphysical system” that surrounds this set of claims.
>>
>>
>>
>>   Also, I was thinking it might be helpful to point out how I would frame
>> his point about consciousness being the only thing we can know for certain.
>> The UTOK would say that a consciousness event is the intersection of the
>> ontic reality of being, epistemology, and ontology. That is, whatever you
>> are experiencing is real in-and-of-itself, is the product of a witnessing
>> experiencing functioning that is an ontological fundamental reality.
>>
>>
>>
>>   I think Rob Scott might put it as the moment of “is-ness”.  Is that
>> fair, Rob?
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Gregg
>>
>>
>>
>> ___________________________________________
>>
>> Gregg Henriques, Ph.D.
>> Professor
>> Department of Graduate Psychology
>> 216 Johnston Hall
>> MSC 7401
>> James Madison University
>> Harrisonburg, VA 22807
>> (540) 568-7857 (phone)
>> (540) 568-4747 (fax)
>>
>>
>> *Be that which enhances dignity and well-being with integrity.*
>>
>> Check out the Unified Theory Of Knowledge homepage at:
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.unifiedtheoryofknowledge.org_&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=YLXr8ervA7BujM8gCtMX7fAFApD857ksr01w9N57NXw&s=rmM154RNCu8dE3nRUhVFJ56ty59lSHPcwGdzIFVMNis&e= 
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.unifiedtheoryofknowledge.org_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=2FLqeiUFHf77Lo3raMI1QZAmIRjUxqXYC5HlbkqP5Ro&s=bMScyEDQeOaFIPR9kfAUhhFylyGhx-6CEkcoLg5eEx8&e=>
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