Hi Cory,
Thanks for this note.
Part of the reason it is so hard to include “the psyche” is because it is confounded and conflated across three broad domains. First, there is the “Mind” which refers to the “dimension of animal-mental behavior” then there is the Person aspect of human mental behavior in the context of Culture (i.e., the science of human behavior at the individual and small group level) and then there is the iQuad Coin, which refers to the unique individual subject from their perspective (as opposed to the other two, which are scientific vantage points).
I am convinced that people flip back and forth between these various meanings and the result is massive confusion and conflation about the referent point for “psyche-ology”
Best,
Gregg
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@ Gregg
I started my email to frame as bio-psycho-social, but the psycho part caused my email to get to be too long from describing too many psychological orientation permutations, so I removed it and started over.
I wasn’t aware of your article. I saw your matrix before but didn’t consider it applied in this context. Yes we largely agree. I like your matrix, it compressing a lot.
Cory
On May 23, 2021, at 6:48 AM, Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Thanks for your reflections, Cory. I am in large agreement.
One thing I would like to comment on and add regarding this issue is that we can use the ToK map of reality and science to show that just thinking in terms of “biological” and “social” sides of the equation is insufficient. The reason is that it overlooks mental evolution and the behavioral inclinations we have as primates. This is the psychological or mental behavioral level of analysis.
This comes into high relief when we look at the masculine and feminine primate relational styles through lens of the Influence Matrix, as I point out in this blog:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/theory-knowledge/201907/simple-way-understand-the-origin-gender-roles<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_theory-2Dknowledge_201907_simple-2Dway-2Dunderstand-2Dthe-2Dorigin-2Dgender-2Droles&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=2IN2YszGAlbtnzhPnU-jqieEb3OSW1warHWGqMO_mvA&s=7K6pxjirY1M7p15M-waoFuc7ZxiJpr8S8AWHndkXBzo&e=>
It also speaks to Mike’s well argued points.
Best,
Gregg
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Hi all,
See the below article and paper. I just remembered this from way back, and the article was still available online (to my surprise). This sort of neuroscience explains a lot.
Gay brains structured like those of the opposite sex >>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.newscientist.com_article_dn14146-2Dgay-2Dbrains-2Dstructured-2Dlike-2Dthose-2Dof-2Dthe-2Dopposite-2Dsex_-23ixzz6vfTFoIHu&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=CG1KWhb4QO3gl1ZDrSE9wEXuzvPdry1ZzHs4yT-R__U&s=PXQub7k2o4CnC4N_LBT9l132XXjj6fuC6EbcwOsNRg0&e=>
Savic, I., & Lindström, P. (2008). PET and MRI show differences in cerebral asymmetry and functional connectivity between homo-and heterosexual subjects<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.pnas.org_content_105_27_9403&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=CG1KWhb4QO3gl1ZDrSE9wEXuzvPdry1ZzHs4yT-R__U&s=6TKk1JnOb9qYSpexNijLyRmVC_3OAgD39umz0DKdNYQ&e=>. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 105(27), 9403-9408.
C.
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