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Lene Rachel Andersen - Nordic Bildung / Fremvirke <[log in to unmask]>
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Very cool indeed!

So what would culture and the 4th dimension be? symbols?

Now if we were to think of /*symbols*//**/*//* metabolism, then a basic 
definition could be:

  * the /symbols/ processes that occur with a /society/ in order to
    maintain /culture/

This would correspond with the 4th dimension of the ToK (Culture)

Best,

Lene

On 10-02-2020 15:59, Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx wrote:
>
> Very cool, Jason.
>
> I will need to sit on this, but I think you are definitely onto 
> something.
>
> Indeed, I think John Vervaeke would find this interesting. I am on his 
> 49^th lecture (one to go!), where he is exploring Jung’s analysis of 
> archetypes as the forms we have potential of becoming. They could be 
> the information processing architectural frames that enable us to 
> metabolize information in a “relevant realization” (Vervaeke’s term) 
> to way guide our becoming.
>
> More later.
>
>
> Best,
> Gregg
>
> *From:*tree of knowledge system discussion 
> <[log in to unmask]> *On Behalf Of *nysa71
> *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020 9:41 AM
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Information Processing Vs. Information Metabolism and BIT
>
> Hi ToK Society,
>
> For some time now,I've been intrigued by the concept of "information 
> metabolism" 
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Information-5Fmetabolism&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=ZrhzkaAD7RBGrjfJfa9Nrr8pbWCgXQpgq1prxAo6KCE&s=JqrLBpVEKKojUR95xJ8RExKnOpDGKwFOfKrdFmkxQmQ&e=>, 
> proposed by Polish psychiatrist, Antoni Kepinski.
>
> It's an interesting metaphor. It's conventional in cognitive 
> psychology to compare the mind to a computer, using the concept of 
> information processing. But perhaps using a /biological/ metaphor 
> would be better as opposed to a /technological/ metaphor. Indeed, 
> perhaps it would be more useful in the development of BIT.
>
> If we were to think of */energy/* metabolism, then a basic dictionary 
> definition would be:
>
>   * the /chemical/ processes that occur within a /living organism/ in
>     order to maintain /life/
>
> This would correspond with the 2nd dimension of the ToK (Life)
>
> Now if we were to think of */information/* metabolism, then a basic 
> definition could be:
>
>   * the /informational/ processes that occur with an /animal/ in order
>     to maintain /mind/
>
> This would correspond with the 3rd dimension of the ToK (Mind)
>
> Furthermore, we could potentially reflect upon the energy metabolism 
> of the brain, the information metabolism of the mind, and the feedback 
> loop between the two, mediated by the neuron.
>
> And there's the evolution of metabolism to consider, as discussed in 
> this article 
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.sciencedirect.com_science_article_pii_S1550413116303011&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=ZrhzkaAD7RBGrjfJfa9Nrr8pbWCgXQpgq1prxAo6KCE&s=MXRDlFwEqGqYVf5wqi72T6PdUVKUmt8pjmIEIAiZmik&e=>. 
> It is life that evolves, not computers,(the analogy typically made by 
> cognitive psychologists). Perhaps this could be another reason to 
> think in terms of information metabolism --- that is, in terms of the 
> evolution/phylogeny of information metabolism.
>
> Just a few thoughts.
>
> ~ Jason
>
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