Waldemar,
Thanks for these comments. I think you are making a very important point about the DIKWV change spectrum. This point gives rise to a good question…what is the version/vision of wisdom that we (TOKers) seek? A meta-justification of justifications? Perhaps we should have a discussion of that.
Best,
Gregg
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Gregg:
Thank you for these two links.
They are both very much related to our recent conference and, as well, to literature of a different sort.
For instance, the concepts of RNA and DNA methylation being involved in epigenetic “storage” of memory raises some difficulty about personhood. Might it be possible, for instance, to “install” memories into the human mind in this way and thereby “induce” a new self? This was explored in Philip K Dick’s book: Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep - made into a movie: Blade Runner. Resumes, perhaps, the specter of recovered memory?
Similarly, Kissinger’s concerns are addressed in Dan Brown’s book: Origins - not yet a movie. Brown’s concern is that AI and technology will result in a new species, the fusion of Homo sapiens with technology.
But, I don’t think Kissinger is aware of, or seems to consider, the DIKWV-Change spectrum. Granted AI, and the computer in general, are good at managing massive amounts of data. To an extent, I suppose that AI especially is capable of extracting information from data and perhaps even coming up with knowledge - though, I’m not sure the latter has been unequivocally demonstrated. At the DIK-level AI seems to be able to provide much support to human effort.
Kissinger worries about the “use” of AI and its risks. But, I submit we have already been there at least once - the Great Recession. The algorithms were mathematically “correct,” I guess but the outcome was disastrous. And, in fact, demonstrates what AI has not been shown to have accomplished: wisdom and/or vision. In their absence, it is not too surprising that the “change” that was thought to be the inevitable result lacked substance - to say the least.
If AI isn’t working reliably enough, I submit it is because we humans have not used the tool well. We thought it was producing wisdom when it never was “designed” to do so!
So, perhaps the humanities and philosophers are not so much at risk. Rather, they are not being utilized in this new field.
Best regards,
Waldemar
Waldemar A Schmidt, PhD, MD
(Perseveret et Percipiunt)
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On May 17, 2018, at 12:02 PM, Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
A central theme of this society is on how the human technology interface is going to change the landscape and essence of our beings in the next 50 years. Here are two articles that highlight some of these issues. The first is by Henry Kissinger on how the information age is changing who we are and how we think. The second is on the molecular/protein nature of memories and how they might be transferred from one brain to another.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/06/henry-kissinger-ai-could-mean-the-end-of-human-history/559124/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.theatlantic.com_magazine_archive_2018_06_henry-2Dkissinger-2Dai-2Dcould-2Dmean-2Dthe-2Dend-2Dof-2Dhuman-2Dhistory_559124_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=PHOCfl6mTWbTxE-CUs9c4xytb-ZrBiZpdJh1Cbo7Acc&s=dO3yJ2X7xMnYzQqBeBs5bvTyBcfEw7bY2sxXUk-cPXM&e=>
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/15/science/memory-transfer-snails.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.nytimes.com_2018_05_15_science_memory-2Dtransfer-2Dsnails.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=PHOCfl6mTWbTxE-CUs9c4xytb-ZrBiZpdJh1Cbo7Acc&s=R71QzEgB0KOmOzWKvnRvJhpBZk4l-y3FHJeELoq-3jE&e=>
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