Hi John, I'm looking forward to meeting everyone at the ToK conference this week. We've successfully created the Canonizer.com topic, seeking to build consensus arround it and it's definition. As we've been discussing, there is the main Consensus Definition <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__canonizer.com_topic_207-2DToK-2Dconsensus-2Ddefinition_2&d=DwIBaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=NQ9GDGvjRQyhiqTqiUbNPQv81uJTkOZyiHivju_AC2Y&s=yRucBUtE7d9H9DMnbpggkxvgRG6l0jSUqSZ25lU8uxA&e=> super camp. And there are two supporting sub camps: Standard formulation <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__canonizer.com_topic_207-2DStandard-2Dformulation_3&d=DwIBaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=NQ9GDGvjRQyhiqTqiUbNPQv81uJTkOZyiHivju_AC2Y&s=XhgSuN9Q1KDYxarfON5vgC4-23og_N2FUEdQVz0M_pc&e=> First principles <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__canonizer.com_topic_207-2DFirst-2Dprinciples-2Dformulation_4&d=DwIBaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=NQ9GDGvjRQyhiqTqiUbNPQv81uJTkOZyiHivju_AC2Y&s=wdHVKBYj-2WH4A6oSGlOGguN_GfZzaD-7n0W49-47lo&e=> Greg and I have formally "joined" our perspective camps. John, I wonder if you could join your "First Principles" camp, just so everyone can be more aware of where this camp came from. Also, it'd be great if others weighed in on this by joining either of these sub camps, or just the main Consensus Definition <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__canonizer.com_topic_207-2DToK-2Dconsensus-2Ddefinition_2&d=DwIBaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=NQ9GDGvjRQyhiqTqiUbNPQv81uJTkOZyiHivju_AC2Y&s=yRucBUtE7d9H9DMnbpggkxvgRG6l0jSUqSZ25lU8uxA&e=> super camp. Think of it as showing your support by signing a petition. If anyone has any questions, e-mail me directly. I could call anyone. Thanks, Brent ############################ To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the following link: http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1