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Nicholas Lattanzio <[log in to unmask]>
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tree of knowledge system discussion <[log in to unmask]>
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James,

I too would love to participate in this podcast idea. I think clarifying
this Big Shift and cultivating a higher level of consciousness which
enables more value-latent cultural functioning is the core of this society
(TOK listserv), we can do this in so many ways but right action is key at
this juncture, so count me in.

Regards,


Nicholas G. Lattanzio, Psy.D.

On Tue, Sep 22, 2020, 4:44 PM James Lyons-Weiler <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> A proposal:
>
> I sense a Big Shift underway here.  Reaching the masses will take
> consistent effort.
>
> I'd like to propose a four-to-six person revolving *Intentional
> Consciousness Expansion *
> podcast, say, 2 hrs every 2 weeks.  Four core people on the screen at
> once, sometimes 1 or 2 more.
>
> My platform can host any number of podcasts (via  WWDNYK - What We Do Not
> Yet Know) - studios.
> No fee, but we'll pitch https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__patreon.com_WWDNYK&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=ERq12NanEqT-mBsj29i_iOHzXPKV1GTXUN92F4rQSUo&s=RWI7FbUXPkKyLJc3Ty_dJVuZ3IpqTqNQLgiSpe82TDE&e= 
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__patreon.com_WWDNYK&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=VZJtLcpiYTu1sntQ3v3BVKp8kjAFthRo5p03dgCAfl8&s=ht13a2TaWUR8pHErfx4YopbzDYV9wm_DbC-J7MxJYPc&e=>
> to help keep to lights on.
>
> If we start with four core people we can occasionally add a few more.
> Round-robin discussion
> on the main topic of the day.  And related issues.  This community can
> make a list of topics and well go at them.
>
> Society's hurting, let's put a little ICE on it. Call it ICE. or Big
> Shift.  Your call on the name of the podcast,
> I'd be happy to host a few to work out the kinks and then fall into the
> background and re-emerge if I think I have
> something worth adding.
>
> I cannot believe I'm adding more to my calendar, but I have a sense this
> is a good thing.
>
> Let me know!
>
> JLW
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 5:11 PM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Thank you for this comment, Manuel. I very much agree that one of the
>> keys that was overlooked is the relationship between language,
>> self-consciousness adds key confusions. I also wish he was clear that the
>> only clear examples of consciousness we have are things that are first
>> alive, so it really is more how Matter becomes Life becomes conscious.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, let me extend a warm welcome to Manuel Manga, as he recently joined
>> the list. Manuel and I had a truly wonderful conversation the other week.
>> He has a magnificent and crucial vision for “evolutionary leadership
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__evolutionleader.com_pages_manuel-2Dmanga_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=VZJtLcpiYTu1sntQ3v3BVKp8kjAFthRo5p03dgCAfl8&s=HwG5mt4DrdLeucFE8trq4pm5tJfMlovGdzJeJbkZjdE&e=>”,
>> which is desperately needed in this time between worlds. His
>> humanistic/spiritual/scientific vision is very congruent with the ToK
>> System and larger Unified Theory Of Knowledge and I am thrilled he has
>> joined our community. It is worth noting that he worked with Humberto
>> Maturana, who, along with Francisco Valera. wrote the ground breaking book,
>>  *The Tree of Knowledge: The Biological Roots of Human Understanding
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.amazon.com_Tree-2DKnowledge-2DBiological-2DRoots-2DUnderstanding_dp_0877736421&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=VZJtLcpiYTu1sntQ3v3BVKp8kjAFthRo5p03dgCAfl8&s=1Doxw75yKx4ABtBbWTBKk36uJX5mv9wRsGJ-IqH5FKY&e=>*.
>> My naming my system the Tree of Knowledge in the 2000s was, somewhat
>> embarrassingly, completely coincidental. If I had done a better job in my
>> literature review, I would have come across there work. Nonetheless, it was
>> very affirming to read as it was a brilliant exposition that offered one of
>> the most advanced, consilient pictures of human knowledge that had been
>> offered to date.
>>
>>
>>
>> I look forward to future conversations and possible collaborations.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Gregg
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* tree of knowledge system discussion <
>> [log in to unmask]> *On Behalf Of *Manuel Manga
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 22, 2020 3:15 PM
>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>> *Subject:* Re: Sam Harris Six Minute Clip
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> I agree that matter gives rise to consciousness. physics to chemistry to
>> biology to brain, to mind, to language. to me language is key to self and
>> consciousness.
>>
>> i wish that harris and others spent less time worrying about robots, the
>> matrix and ai, and he would focused more on how we can transform-evolve our
>> minds- consciousness-meta-narratives from a destructive species toward a
>> more sustainable-ethical- and flourishing species.
>>
>>
>>
>> we are heading toward some big crisis, so let's be part academics-part
>> evolutionary leaders.
>>
>> best,
>>
>> manuel manga
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 6:33 AM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>>   I thought this 6 minute clip on consciousness was worthwhile:
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DLpaDlIlqygE&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=ERq12NanEqT-mBsj29i_iOHzXPKV1GTXUN92F4rQSUo&s=wwQmjHDpu7U2huMIRxP9qZNB60mh5hgK4Hqonp1JsPM&e= 
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DLpaDlIlqygE&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=2FLqeiUFHf77Lo3raMI1QZAmIRjUxqXYC5HlbkqP5Ro&s=t49LFwBP5LSG1xmnqwKZ3-LKlRH7a_1qhPnJ-L5hRQc&e=>
>>
>>
>>
>>   Of course, with the BM3 solution, we can make significant advances in
>> the “descriptive metaphysical system” that surrounds this set of claims.
>>
>>
>>
>>   Also, I was thinking it might be helpful to point out how I would frame
>> his point about consciousness being the only thing we can know for certain.
>> The UTOK would say that a consciousness event is the intersection of the
>> ontic reality of being, epistemology, and ontology. That is, whatever you
>> are experiencing is real in-and-of-itself, is the product of a witnessing
>> experiencing functioning that is an ontological fundamental reality.
>>
>>
>>
>>   I think Rob Scott might put it as the moment of “is-ness”.  Is that
>> fair, Rob?
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Gregg
>>
>>
>>
>> ___________________________________________
>>
>> Gregg Henriques, Ph.D.
>> Professor
>> Department of Graduate Psychology
>> 216 Johnston Hall
>> MSC 7401
>> James Madison University
>> Harrisonburg, VA 22807
>> (540) 568-7857 (phone)
>> (540) 568-4747 (fax)
>>
>>
>> *Be that which enhances dignity and well-being with integrity.*
>>
>> Check out the Unified Theory Of Knowledge homepage at:
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.unifiedtheoryofknowledge.org_&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=ERq12NanEqT-mBsj29i_iOHzXPKV1GTXUN92F4rQSUo&s=Ue4zgVanG00SX7l2G-RHmxO5x2uX1W_hdTPoMfvDQWM&e= 
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.unifiedtheoryofknowledge.org_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=2FLqeiUFHf77Lo3raMI1QZAmIRjUxqXYC5HlbkqP5Ro&s=bMScyEDQeOaFIPR9kfAUhhFylyGhx-6CEkcoLg5eEx8&e=>
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