UG Krishnamurt, again a simple teaching. In his first recorded talk, with
David Bohm, asks and asserts what is Truth? That which does not change.
Interesting. Kinda screws up a lot of narratives… all is illusion
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> Absolutely TR, Ram Dass is one of my greatest teachers (and I named my cat
> after him), though he is not of a strictly advaitist (nondual) lineage. Ram
> Dass is moreso an "Eastern Eclectic" as I call it, though his views were
> certainly rooted in nondual teachings, and he would classically refer to
> anything as being "just awareness." The nondual spectrum is wide though,
> and Nondual Empiricism is fundamentally rooted in radical nonduality (as
> exemplified by UG Krishnamurti, Mooji, Papaji, etc.,). I guess I would
> place Ram Dass in the more embodied aspects of NE due to his massive
> influence on the world, so he maybe gets extra credit. And as you say, Be
> Here Now is definitely an NE motto that touches on the radical nondual
> aspect (i.e., you can only ever be here now, even if deluded to believe
> you're somewhere/time else).
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> Regards,
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> Nicholas G. Lattanzio, Psy.D.
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>> At some point Ram Das came up, I think his phrase “be here now” can be
>> used nicely to frame a metaphysics of non dual presence.
>>
>> Be - “to be” action, verb, process, energy, information - presenting
>> mind as meaning
>> Here - place, space, relationship - present in mind
>> Now - presence of mind
>>
>> Mind presenting meaning as creative evolution through relationship with
>> Mind.
>>
>> Cheers
>> T
>>
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>>> Thank you Nik and Gregg for this! It was a lovely listen yesterday as I
>>> synchronistically drove an unusually meandering course through wooded
>>> backroads, at one point getting slightly lost.
>>>
>>> A Zen anecdote came up for me around 1:20:30, related to points in the
>>> video about what is actually being "practiced," and how the realization of
>>> non-duality does not dualistically cut us off from self-cultivation. It
>>> features one of my favorite old-time teachers, who played paradox like
>>> Coltrane played the saxophone. It’s probably a bit mangled with 20 years of
>>> memory, but I'd like to share it:
>>>
>>> An official asked Joshu, “What is it that you practice?”
>>> Joshu said, “I myself do not practice.”
>>> The official said, “How then can you teach non-practitioners like
>>> myself?”
>>> Joshu said, “If you did not practice, how could you have overcome hunger
>>> and cold and attained the rank of a high official?”
>>> With tears in his eyes, the official bowed in gratitude.
>>>
>>> Gladly,
>>> Rachel
>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Episode 51: UTOKing with Nicholas Lattanzio
>>>> April 25, 2022*
>>>>
>>>> *Title: Nondual Empiricism*
>>>>
>>>> In Episode 49, Gregg welcomes Nicholas Lattanzio. He is a psychologist
>>>> with long standing interests in integral theory and Eastern philosophical
>>>> traditions. A TOK Society member, he advocates for a "nondual empirical"
>>>> position that he uses to bridge psychotherapy, philosophy and being in the
>>>> world. He has interests and areas of expertise comprising
>>>> existential/spiritual crises, anxiety disorders, substance use disorders,
>>>> personality disorders, psychosis, self-harm, trauma, ADHD, depressive and
>>>> mood disorders, dissociative disorders, and issues related to identity at
>>>> various stages of development In this episode, he shares with Gregg his
>>>> thinking and how nondual empiricism relates to UTOK.
>>>>
>>>> Here
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.podbean.com_media_share_pb-2Djhf2p-2D120cd15&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=RJD6Z2lunrfosXAlhbz6HEbMnR0DLdQ8FpeZ7WObFqo&s=omBS6xtmUTwcuKufmuIH49T26nLU5pvJkJJl_LsuVCk&e=>
>>>> is the episode on podbean. Here
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_nicholas-2Dlattanzio-2D085757190_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=RJD6Z2lunrfosXAlhbz6HEbMnR0DLdQ8FpeZ7WObFqo&s=4UYRkUKZbYDngfgG23JgZwv_YRbICBRTfZ2YXFHq2rA&e=>
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>>>>
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