What is Washington if not a game of thrones? USA democracy has become a
feudalism battlefield, a pendulum destined to swing left and right
indefinitely. You can fit a camel through the head of its needle but you
have to put it in a blender first.

C.

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 9:57 PM James Lyons-Weiler <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Cory,
> On balance, religion, or I should say religiosity also acts as a safety
> valve;
> if all of the deferred and imagined conflicts had to be resolved
> this time around, we'd be living in the Game of Thrones.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 5:51 AM Cory David Barker <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> I'm with you on this.
>>
>> Also, I'd like to include the impact of religion in the western world.
>> Christianity has a self-destruction motif in most sects of Christianity.
>> They believe that this world is doomed to fail, that a rapture or
>> armageddon will occur, and God will sort it all out. They believe they hold
>> positions of power and wealth on God selecting them. Everything good that
>> happens to them is God and everything against them is a devil trying to
>> sway them from the correct path. This effectively ignores science, facts,
>> and wagers the future survival on invisible forces. They believe they will
>> go to a heaven or paradise, those who stand up to them will go to hell or
>> get eternal punishment, and believe the destruction of the world is gods
>> will. This underpins what we are dealing with: people tryong to put the
>> entire world on a cross to kill it.
>>
>> Cory
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 10:29 AM James Lyons-Weiler <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> Cory,
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> "Its has become corrupted".
>>>
>>> Yes, worth knowing by what.  In my view the corporatist influence must
>>> be minimized.
>>>
>>> Here is a diagram I rendered last year showing The New Left and the New
>>> Right which pulls aside the curtain to reveal that and how the D party and
>>> the R party will exist into perpetuity regardless of "Democracy" (which we
>>> do not have), State-Owned Corporatism, or Corporate-Owned Statism.
>>>
>>> [image: The New Right2.jpg]
>>>
>>> Due to de-regulation, partisan politics has become an agent of corporate
>>> interests;
>>> corporations have captured the regulatory agencies, and Soviet-style
>>> committee bosses
>>> outlast presidents.
>>>
>>> Bureaucrats and in-line accountants have more job stability and
>>> accumulate more
>>> influence and power than the 'doers'.  The survival of the cabal becomes
>>> far more
>>> relevant in terms of operations than any over-arching concern for
>>> societal well-being.
>>>
>>> Corporations, being by necessity, and by law amoral, must operate to
>>> foster their own
>>> survival  Governments have a mandate to keep the nation but have not
>>> mandate to
>>> survive unto themselves.  Parliamentary dissolution and re-negotiation
>>> of cabinets
>>> and entire governments may be expected to be more resilient and
>>> inoculated against corporatist
>>> corruptive influences, but they are not.
>>>
>>> We live in corporatist fascist states in which overt fascism is masked
>>> by puppets of corporations
>>> that call themselves politicians who answer not to principles, but to
>>> platform, dictated by
>>> their sponsors.
>>>
>>> I owe these insights to the research done in preparation of and while
>>> writing "Cures Vs. Profits",
>>> confirmed by my conscription into overt activism for objective science
>>> on the steps and in the halls
>>> of state capitals around the country, with politicians in deed and in
>>> word echoing the fraudulent
>>> talking points of their corporatist masters.
>>>
>>> Events caught on camera changing votes due to whispered words coming
>>> down from party bosses,
>>> leaving the people's true liberties and freedoms in the dustbin... Pick
>>> your poison, the right is paid for
>>> policies and laws tolerant of toxins in the air, water, food, and soils,
>>> the nouveau-rich left tolerates them
>>> in medicine, shanghai'd by their penchant for lifting up the
>>> downtrodden, for the greater good, which
>>> masterfully being beaten into the minds of Americans right now with the
>>> non-science-based universal
>>> and outdoors masking nonsense.  Not the place for specific debate, but
>>> the art of social programming
>>> is so much clearer after a handful of blue pills.
>>>
>>> Thank you for suffering my diatribes in the search for a name that
>>> captures the exigencies of our time.
>>>
>>> For me, it's corporatism.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 10:45 AM Cory David Barker <
>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Democracy is already a stage higher than meta systematic, its
>>>> paradigmatic.  Metamodernism has become spinning wheels. Yes, more people
>>>> are getting inetrested in understanding that we need to go beyond left and
>>>> right, but metamodernism is not any more complex than democracy.
>>>> Metamodernism is what democracy already was, going beyond left and right
>>>> (or going beyond the multiplicity of parties such as in Austria) to have a
>>>> rule of governance and a way of life that is as satisfiable as possible to
>>>> the most people. Metamodernism is basically just rediscovering the
>>>> democratic ideals. But democracy does not work because there are always
>>>> people who corrupt it.  Similarly, just like what happened with democracy,
>>>> so too is happening with metamodernity, it is fracturing.
>>>>
>>>> The United Nations was supposed to be cross paradigmatic, it was
>>>> supposed to synthesize together across nations, it was supposed to uphold
>>>> universal human rights. And what has happened? It has become corrupted. We
>>>> need to go beyond the metacultural to find a solution. Metacultural
>>>> solutions are building blocks towards but not the overall solution itself.
>>>> What happens in democracy is proof.
>>>>
>>>> I mostly agree with Gregg's 5th joint point, but I do not believe we
>>>> should be calling it meta. It will not be democracy, but it will build on
>>>> its (and other forms of governance) best traits. It will be something we've
>>>> never seen before.
>>>>
>>>> C.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 7:35 AM James Lyons-Weiler <
>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Cory,
>>>>> Thank you for this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Complex systems such as you described can succinctly be represented
>>>>> and modeled and explicitly simulated when the maths become intractable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's revisit that in a brief moment.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll risk capturing the issue succinctly: we do not know if how are
>>>>> are governed, and how we govern, are even close to optimal in their
>>>>> structure, form and
>>>>> processes.  We do know that we are not well-governed due to corruption
>>>>> of an otherwise largely sufficient government process solution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't it an obvious feature of human societies that when leadership
>>>>> fails, they are replaced by those who seek  harmony through leadership?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet in spite of that nature of mankind, we have persistent
>>>>> pathologies, for reasons you describe.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are my thoughts.  We need society-level metacognition processes
>>>>> focused on optimizing process solutions; Gregg's ToK is attractive in that
>>>>> it provides a framework for discussion of systems at different levels,
>>>>> their commonalities and differences.  It illuminates possibilities
>>>>> without imposing constraint to one temporally parochial "other-than"
>>>>> process solution.
>>>>>
>>>>> In contrast, the Magna Carta, the US Declaration of Independence, the
>>>>> Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf were all dangerous (to the
>>>>> 'establishment'  at the time) because they begat awareness in individuals
>>>>> that as a collective they have the power to empower others on their behalf
>>>>> in a different way.  Individuals respond to pledges of loyalty, fealty, and
>>>>> Unity in a common bond of "us-ness"; we emotionally surrender a past state
>>>>> of relatedness to a new one,
>>>>> and we pledge our wealth and send our sons and daughters on behalf of
>>>>> that spoken and adopted unity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's presume that some of the obvious assumptions inherent in the
>>>>> model you referenced we are discussing are correct:
>>>>>
>>>>> -That "the system" i.e., human societies are inherently, of necessity,
>>>>> and optimally hierarchical
>>>>> -That people acting at their own level of self-interest at every phase
>>>>> can, in fact yield a sustainable governance
>>>>> -That a minority can solve the issue on behalf of the majority
>>>>>
>>>>> Carrying in our present context, I've looked in Game B a bit, just
>>>>> dabbling, and more into Unity2020, and I appreciate deeply the need to
>>>>> optimize
>>>>> quickly toward AI vs. human conflict and "move beyond" Game A
>>>>> human:human conflict.    Tendrils of Game A  however are obvious even in
>>>>> the truism that a motive for Game B is that  Game A has not served us
>>>>> sufficiently well.  To me, Unity2020 will eventually fall under the plow
>>>>> due to the corrupting influences of
>>>>> corporate campaign funding.  So let's presume that Unity2020 is a
>>>>> temporally parochial defined process reactionary, not proactively optimized
>>>>> solution because
>>>>> the broken pieces that eroded both parties in the US remain (this need
>>>>> not be true if, as party, corporatist influences are *better
>>>>> contained*).
>>>>>
>>>>> An individual has human-recognized options, such as stoicism, or
>>>>> religion, which attribute responsibility outside of their
>>>>> locus of control; both are palliative and keep the ego intact via the
>>>>> belief by the individual they are submitting to something
>>>>> greater than themselves. At a societal level, to date, conformity to a
>>>>> man-made power entity backed by the threat of force
>>>>> has been the path to peaceful coexistence within societies.
>>>>> Pathological overreach for control of one society over another
>>>>> (even if mostly for resources) leads to the mutual application of
>>>>> force (war).
>>>>>
>>>>> "Government" is a form of metacognition for societies. Our society
>>>>> mentality has any number of pathologies.
>>>>>
>>>>> You wrote:  "..(A)lmost all of the participants in economic,
>>>>> political, and corporate systems who can perform meta systematically, are
>>>>> stuck in the negation or oscillation transition step, which is what
>>>>> metamodernism is an attempt to help solve."
>>>>>
>>>>> I love this sentence.  Highly illuminating.  Spot-on.
>>>>>
>>>>> What we lack, and what  the forward-thinking simulations needed to
>>>>> identify process solutions that can help us move from one place to the next.
>>>>>
>>>>> Safely.
>>>>> With prosperity for all.
>>>>> And (real) health for all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Should the new enlightenment include the high utility of prescient
>>>>> modeling, millions of equally optimal process solutions may be identified.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had a discussion with someone close to me which "went well" for the
>>>>> first time in years because I told him that in my mind, I was replacing
>>>>> comparatively short-sight, subjective (experienced-based) culturally
>>>>> parochial "principles", "norms", "mores" and "ethos" with a "search for
>>>>> optimal
>>>>> process solutions".
>>>>>
>>>>> Such a shift de-escalates the perceived threats over what otherwise
>>>>> could be perceived as a threat to one's "identity" and what "one stands
>>>>> for".
>>>>>
>>>>> It helps people remember that support "for Trump" or "for Biden" is an
>>>>> adoption of a different constellation of process solutions, some of which
>>>>> are "optimized" for
>>>>> the benefit of particular subgroups in society.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have the ability and computational power to model (simulate) the
>>>>> entire world with agent-based simulations; they are used to help route
>>>>> traffic patterns, to optimize design of  large hospitals, etc. but they are
>>>>> not used to optimize rules and regulations, or how societies are structured.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd love to see an arm of the new enlightenment adopt the task of
>>>>> modeling societies as multi-layered processes on well-defined humanist
>>>>> optimization
>>>>> functions if only to find answers to meta-questions on the landscape
>>>>> of solutions such as "how many way are there to structure a government that
>>>>> are equally optimal" (for the sake of knowing) with the residual answer to
>>>>> the footnote: "where does our current system lie on that landscape of
>>>>> optimized solutions"?
>>>>>
>>>>> I would begin with agrarian societies, and modeling societies and
>>>>> nation-states from around the world every 100 years or so.  Where could
>>>>> German have gone instead in 1933, for example?
>>>>>
>>>>> For the present day, once we know the landscape of optimal and
>>>>> suboptimal process solutions, the question then becomes; what do we do
>>>>> about them?  That becomes less academic and more political.  As a tool, of
>>>>> course, interested parties could adopt this approach as a means to their
>>>>> selfish ends, and thus the tail we thought we lost in evolution wraps
>>>>> around the branch once more...
>>>>>
>>>>> JLW
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 12:25 AM Cory David Barker <
>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The model of hierarchical complexity is a mathematical behavior model
>>>>>> that defines discreet orders (also called stages) of increasing behavioral
>>>>>> complexity. Each order of complexity is produced by the coordination of two
>>>>>> or more actions at the previous order. The orders are domain-general,
>>>>>> universal forms of behavior.  There are 8 transition steps between each
>>>>>> stage, and they are for fractally identical. And yes, it does apply at all
>>>>>> building blocks of social organization, although the calculus to adequately
>>>>>> represent it becomes profoundly complex.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is primarily quantitative, not qualitative and therefore not
>>>>>> analogy based. However, analogies can be made in so far as an order of
>>>>>> hierarchical complexity has been identified to be the same between two or
>>>>>> more behaviors, so the characteristics that are shared between those
>>>>>> behaviors can be related.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The paper explicitly articulate the fundamental behavioral complexity
>>>>>> required to resolve the current issues that are occurring right now. The
>>>>>> problem is, most people hit a ceiling at formal or systematic stage, and in
>>>>>> order for people to resolve the issues, they need to be no less then meta
>>>>>> systematic stage, which consists of about 5% of the population. This is
>>>>>> because the solution requires the coordination and synthesis of homomorphic
>>>>>> principles that govern systems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Democracy was designed specifically for this purpose, for people to
>>>>>> come together from different perspectives and design, append, and amend
>>>>>> higher order principles (laws) to govern systems. Unfortunately, the
>>>>>> systems have been corrupted. This is because almost all of the participants
>>>>>> in economic, political, and corporate systems who can perform meta
>>>>>> systematically, are stuck in the negation or oscillation transition steps,
>>>>>> which is what metamodernism is an attempt to help solve.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You cannot resolve the corruption directly. It does not work. Corrupt
>>>>>> organizations consist of people who will understand your method for trying
>>>>>> to prevent their corruption, and they will adapt to stop you.
>>>>>> Anti-corruption only put Band-Aids on a larger problem. The paper I
>>>>>> limetnked works, but only if you can get people to sit at the same table in
>>>>>> good faith. And we don't see it happen very often. We need something more
>>>>>> to solve these problems, but we don't have it yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> C.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 1:19 AM James Lyons-Weiler <
>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you Cory, theirs (Sonnert & Commons') is a analogy-based
>>>>>>> general theoretical framework but I'm afraid in my view it falls
>>>>>>> short (as all analogies and models do to some extent) because it
>>>>>>> attempts to apply and extend a model developed to understand
>>>>>>> an aspect of the developing human brain, which society is not, and
>>>>>>> thus is cannot succeed in providing much more
>>>>>>> than a descriptive framework.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RIght now, I'm more along the lines of "If we are asked to hang
>>>>>>> those responsible, who are they, and what do we call them" (hanging being a
>>>>>>> metaphor) and "once the king is dead, who shall be king (if anyone),
>>>>>>> and how shall we live"?  And "do we want to be informed or participate?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Take Greenspan's awakening, for example.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.theguardian.com_business_2008_oct_24_economics-2Dcreditcrunch-2Dfederal-2Dreserve-2Dgreenspan&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=FcJBOAoBUt5bsSiVYXRjd8FQpeny2u7grBrHa1L-Hr0&s=F0K82pQqB6oCPnUFCcxj4mOAzGTbp5dn5a4-WlYWmHw&e= 
>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.theguardian.com_business_2008_oct_24_economics-2Dcreditcrunch-2Dfederal-2Dreserve-2Dgreenspan&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=D-9ZbkJ3UKJEqsE3Xl0MZ4WVjgIoHLzqIgKsT1Zylng&s=_d3QKD3iGMOSBKKVcI4PDm2FY7wggfASObJQ1wc65K8&e=>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How could a society structure its economy on a model of infinite
>>>>>>> growth in the first place?
>>>>>>> A presumption that based on interest in one's own resources, one
>>>>>>> would take good care of them and shepherd them well - with no
>>>>>>> built-in safe guard for someone to sound an alarm, and practiced
>>>>>>> routine of changed behavior that would allow a gentle
>>>>>>> slide into a recession.  We don't have any such safeguards, and this
>>>>>>> is why in 2008 I called and wrote to Hank Paulson (Sec.
>>>>>>> Treasury) from my office at the University of Pittsburgh the Friday
>>>>>>> before Black Monday, pleading for him to use all
>>>>>>> carrot and no stick, lest a lending freeze hold the bail-out money
>>>>>>> for months.  My solution was a sliding scale incentive plan:
>>>>>>> The lower the interest rate banks offered to consumers, the larger
>>>>>>> the size of the bailout a bank could obtain, and the better
>>>>>>> the terms of the payback (longer terms, lower interest) to the Fed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Equitably incentivized transactions at such times would appear to me
>>>>>>> to dictate such terms - not further trust in
>>>>>>> the survival instincts of drowning institutions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paulson ignored my pleas, instead he forced banks to accept bail-out
>>>>>>> they did not need to "legitimize" the loans.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The banks froze for 3 three months, and millions lost their homes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The absence of creative thought in economic modeling - in spite of
>>>>>>> trillions of dollars worth of computers and software in which
>>>>>>> simulations could be run to find good outcomes - to me an example of
>>>>>>> is symptomatic of a larger pathology; parameterizing a strategy (and its
>>>>>>> models) to an end that serves as a means to  its own ends *because
>>>>>>> doing so sanctifies the authority*.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As base as that may seem, Left and Right have no meaning if their
>>>>>>> shuffling of platforms are based on
>>>>>>> multivariate versions of "Split the country and take the bigger
>>>>>>> half", which they are.  They are based on projections of surrogate outcomes
>>>>>>> (elections) not long-term health of the country, economy, etc.  I'm
>>>>>>> convinced the two parties would survive quite well side by
>>>>>>> side regardless of the type of economy or (nearly) government that
>>>>>>> ruled the US.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So who is culpable for not imagining and sharing such better ways?
>>>>>>> Surely they have been imagined?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is it the drama players themselves?
>>>>>>> The witting and unwitting electorate?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are there meta-influences who ride the ebbing political waves like
>>>>>>> an investor
>>>>>>> who knows how to make money when the stock market both rises and
>>>>>>> falls?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or do societies flail - and fail - from the emergent properties of
>>>>>>> self-serving nature of humans, who see fit to limit
>>>>>>> themselves to conformed mold?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Something else?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does for-profit medicine lead to medical injuries being the 3rd
>>>>>>> leading cause of death by institutional negligence, or
>>>>>>> personal callous disregard?  More importantly - what do we do NOW to
>>>>>>> address it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Reflect for a moment on why we so thoroughly enmesh our identities
>>>>>>> with our positions, and why are we not warned (and do not warn those
>>>>>>> we mentor) that to do so means risk of suffering an unwarranted
>>>>>>> crisis should your position change?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I imagine that there are many, many axes of morality - defined by
>>>>>>> their ability to render useful and not harmful process solutions, which
>>>>>>> sit right before us, but to which we are blinded by our
>>>>>>> socialization and education:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *-Conformity to the majority*
>>>>>>> *-Appeal to (or deference) to authority*
>>>>>>> *-Vague, inexact or unestimated "greater good" cost/benefit
>>>>>>> calculations *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm sure everyone can extend this list of behaviors that become
>>>>>>> "default mode" operations that may have worked
>>>>>>> optimally in our tribal and small village past.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But now, we confuse "principles" with "process solutions".
>>>>>>> Principles are subjective and experience-based, and
>>>>>>> often outmoded by a rapidly changing world.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Principles are held onto dearly, and in staying with them are left
>>>>>>> unscathed by later-life experience.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Process solutions are continuously optimized via intelligence and
>>>>>>> tested by objective empirical evidence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Principles" can collide and cause societal conflict.  "Process
>>>>>>> solutions" cannot collide, they can only enmesh and adjust to each
>>>>>>> other toward some optimal solution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are many possible outcomes for tomorrow given where we stand
>>>>>>> today.  Are we forbidden or
>>>>>>> constrained from using the full suite of tools we have mastered to
>>>>>>> envision a peaceful, creative, caring, even loving future?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know if you've noticed but there is a rising tide of
>>>>>>> anti-scientism in the US - and it is not anti-science by any means.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In part that is because those who call for objective science remain
>>>>>>> heralded (for better or worse).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My overt concern (not yet a fear) is a restructuring based on
>>>>>>> partial comprehension of science, sociology, psychology,
>>>>>>> education, economics, and that we may fall short of a society that
>>>>>>> preserves liberties and freedom that permit
>>>>>>> evolution or even free expression in these areas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My fear is that the collective academe in the US will wake up too
>>>>>>> slowly to the reality that at 16.8% of our GDP, 3,600
>>>>>>> billion dollars are spent on (largely) for-profit healthcare; that
>>>>>>> means that 1/6 dollars are being spent on for-profit medicine, and
>>>>>>> the cost of healthcare is expected to rise dramatically. How will we
>>>>>>> pay for the rest of what is needed to have a functioning
>>>>>>> society?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Most importantly I think is what process solutions can be envisioned
>>>>>>> to reform an unsustainable model based on infinite growth?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And what other sectors are pathological at this time, and what
>>>>>>> process solutions might exist to help them improve as well?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think we can expect all of the answers here, but surely some
>>>>>>> answers must exist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> JLW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 12:13 AM Cory David Barker <
>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Read Sonnert and Commons
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.google.com_url-3Fsa-3Dt-26source-3Dweb-26rct-3Dj-26url-3Dhttps-3A__files.eric.ed.gov_fulltext_ED348600.pdf-26ved-3D2ahUKEwiPzMLk-2DtrqAhXELH0KHS5ZAs4QFjABegQIBBAB-26usg-3DAOvVaw1LOvMInu3N1o9iEJvVY8YB&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=FcJBOAoBUt5bsSiVYXRjd8FQpeny2u7grBrHa1L-Hr0&s=bR9XIj9bCxsFmuivZo1BPITOjuAKGwpkMyAozf68sNs&e= 
>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.google.com_url-3Fsa-3Dt-26source-3Dweb-26rct-3Dj-26url-3Dhttps-3A__files.eric.ed.gov_fulltext_ED348600.pdf-26ved-3D2ahUKEwiPzMLk-2DtrqAhXELH0KHS5ZAs4QFjABegQIBBAB-26usg-3DAOvVaw1LOvMInu3N1o9iEJvVY8YB&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=dV8LmVFnbOlj5VxkDUn5xSaqWHr5MCLS6uIA6M5o_K4&s=vlgU37ZZpN-_qz8Vk57BXX2HdUErNlYpohaDAUae824&e=>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cory
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 7:38 PM James Lyons-Weiler <
>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With your permission, may I inquire on opinions and discussion of
>>>>>>>>> root causes of the sociological developments in societies of the current
>>>>>>>>> suite of what are easily - and not so easily recognized as societal
>>>>>>>>> dysfunctions.  My intended scope is US-centric, but need not be. I'll
>>>>>>>>> initiate by listing a few issues.  Which ones are causal? Which one are
>>>>>>>>> symptomatic?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Profit interesting bending Science (esp. medicine and psychiatry)
>>>>>>>>> *Financial perverse incentives distorting Science
>>>>>>>>> *Lack of meaningful ROI of research translating to effective
>>>>>>>>> solutions
>>>>>>>>> *"Left vs. Right focus" masking top-down control (cf. middle-out
>>>>>>>>> or bottom-up) solutions
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please add to/extend as you like.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We need not agree, of course, but I am keen to see perspectives
>>>>>>>>> and learn of voices willing to try to *name the issue* and offer
>>>>>>>>> a definition.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It need not be an "ism", but I suspect it is on the scale of "*Imperialism,
>>>>>>>>> Nazism, Communism*".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lately I've been enamored with the phrase "Process Solution"; ie.,
>>>>>>>>> the identification of an ever-improving process that makes the
>>>>>>>>> identification and adoption of a viable and helpful (valuable) solution
>>>>>>>>> more likely - so if you have process solutions in mind and if they help
>>>>>>>>> w/finding a name due to the present absence of that solution, I'd be eager
>>>>>>>>> to learn of them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> James Lyons-Weiler, PhD
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 5:56 PM Chance McDermott <
>>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I support Gregg in this!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> =Chance
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 10:39 AM Cole Butler <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well said, Gregg.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve not been following this Pinker controversy (nor am I
>>>>>>>>>>> acquainted with his work), but your points regarding contextualization of
>>>>>>>>>>> the broader socio-political landscape of the US (and West, more broadly)
>>>>>>>>>>> and the idealogical protection of egos so as to avoid offense both speak to
>>>>>>>>>>> me. Within the smaller circles of my work, I’ve lately seen the science and
>>>>>>>>>>> greater mission of our work threatened to be crumbled under the fear of
>>>>>>>>>>> offending some big personalities. This is quite worrisome from my position,
>>>>>>>>>>> as others seem to be apt to deferring these feelings toward me. I hope
>>>>>>>>>>> that, within the academy and more broadly, we can work to be able to speak
>>>>>>>>>>> freely [even when it threatens offending others (I’m not speaking here in
>>>>>>>>>>> the context of race)] in the name of the ultimate ideal of helping others
>>>>>>>>>>> through high-quality work.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cole
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 8:28 AM Michael Mascolo <
>>>>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Good, courageous work, Gregg.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> M.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Michael F. Mascolo, Ph.D.*
>>>>>>>>>>>> Academic Director, Compass Program
>>>>>>>>>>>> Professor, Department of Psychology
>>>>>>>>>>>> Merrimack College, North Andover, MA 01845
>>>>>>>>>>>> 978.837.3503 (office)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 978.979.8745 (cell)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Political Conversations Study: *www.CreatingCommonGround.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.creatingcommonground.org_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=aHGv2k0oV6dpAydV2ONDDuK5xZ5sLdP71WDfMW0XbNI&s=K2PXF679Gi2-qOfSEWxrsP_JOpf0k8E6dg80DGz9IqM&e=>*
>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: Values Matter
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_values-2Dmatter&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=aHGv2k0oV6dpAydV2ONDDuK5xZ5sLdP71WDfMW0XbNI&s=yoB292j9_vxRNqpQUYPBaOqDuedD76JIVrr_rGIdgpg&e=>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Journal: Pedagogy and the Human Sciences
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__scholarworks.merrimack.edu_phs_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=aHGv2k0oV6dpAydV2ONDDuK5xZ5sLdP71WDfMW0XbNI&s=pMuXe7MRO8Fbz4zNYqxauhFcWuqQ_AaAKsgiRHLpdkw&e=>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Coaching and Author Website: www.michaelmascolo.com
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Academia Home Page:
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>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__merrimack.academia.edu_MichaelMascolo&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=aHGv2k0oV6dpAydV2ONDDuK5xZ5sLdP71WDfMW0XbNI&s=LaEf5oyTeHm6B6f1Rf8Xx3f5cHf3mX6F0vvBXpOXARY&e=>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "*Things move, persons act.*" -- Kenneth Burke
>>>>>>>>>>>> "*If it's not worth doing, it's not worth doing well*." --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Donald Hebb
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 2020, at 8:18 AM, Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi TOK Folks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought I would share this post I made this morning on the
>>>>>>>>>>>> metamodern forum I am on:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think when discussing these issues, such as the petition
>>>>>>>>>>>> against Pinker, the Harper letter, and so forth, it is crucial to
>>>>>>>>>>>> distinguish the setting/community/cultural context folks have in mind. For
>>>>>>>>>>>> example, there is the United States as a whole. That might be one
>>>>>>>>>>>> contextual setting. When folks look at the US as a whole, then you see
>>>>>>>>>>>> Donald Trump as the President and you see the history of slavery and Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>> Crow and the remarkable inequities, and much like *@handrews*
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forum.metamoderna.org_u_handrews&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=wjF8cZoiFchamTuxBdDEmw&m=_lla770peQlgRBFfwJwSfFiONQdygXo-fy8wGS3q6Ak&s=oF_YzrY5UCQAolXMPE6cNw9JH0qdAlyWGQslIJHNo3Q&e=>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  argues, the general complaints about word usage or political
>>>>>>>>>>>> positions seem small potatoes.
>>>>>>>>>>>> However, when we flip the context to inside the academia or
>>>>>>>>>>>> leftist media centers or other left-leaning ideological contexts, the issue
>>>>>>>>>>>> is VERY different. I can tell you, I live in the academy, in the social
>>>>>>>>>>>> sciences (professional psychology) and the climate here is very different.
>>>>>>>>>>>> We are MUCH closer to thought/language police than people seem to realize.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Virtue signaling is everywhere, as is an almost Orwellian use of language
>>>>>>>>>>>> regarding justice and morality (i.e., more often than not in such contexts,
>>>>>>>>>>>> IMO, those who are doing the moralizing and shaming are not operating from
>>>>>>>>>>>> a “higher ground”). Not only that, I believe much of it is ideologically
>>>>>>>>>>>> misguided. Academics bending over backwards to eliminate anything that
>>>>>>>>>>>> could be subjectively perceived by a person educated in postmodern critical
>>>>>>>>>>>> race theory as being offensive is not where real change is to be had, IMO.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rather, as I saw firsthand in working on the inner city streets of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Philadelphia from 1999-2003, there are deep class/race/structural issues
>>>>>>>>>>>> that need to be tackled head on.
>>>>>>>>>>>> If one is situated in the academy, one should object strongly
>>>>>>>>>>>> to the letter against Pinker. It justifies language police, which is a
>>>>>>>>>>>> problem inside hyper-progressive systems and much of the academy has been
>>>>>>>>>>>> (is are being) captured by this troubling ideology (*see the
>>>>>>>>>>>> footnote on pg 122 of this article I wrote*
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.gregghenriques.com_uploads_2_4_3_6_24368778_toward-5Fa-5Fuseful-5Fmass-5Fmovement.pdf&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=wjF8cZoiFchamTuxBdDEmw&m=_lla770peQlgRBFfwJwSfFiONQdygXo-fy8wGS3q6Ak&s=MQ4zFryRZc6-i4sQiqrZFYHGgOzw33TjzpSB-H2qAOQ&e=>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  back in 2005). The bottom line is that we are living in
>>>>>>>>>>>> massively polarized socio-ideological
>>>>>>>>>>>> ecologies and because context is everything there are rarely
>>>>>>>>>>>> general positions (i.e., Pinker letter was “bad” versus “an important
>>>>>>>>>>>> signal”) that are defensible without specifying the context to apply to
>>>>>>>>>>>> argument. Inside the context of academy, the Pinker letter is horrendous
>>>>>>>>>>>> and the signatories should be embarrassed for their actions. In the larger
>>>>>>>>>>>> context of a society that has elected Trump, it can be seen as a small
>>>>>>>>>>>> issue that maybe oversteps but makes an important point on principle.
>>>>>>>>>>>> My hope is that those who operate from a metamodern sensibility
>>>>>>>>>>>> would have the general capacity to see that the extreme polarization in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> US (which is probably infecting the West) is a function of inadequate
>>>>>>>>>>>> cultural codes being defined against one another in problematic ways. We
>>>>>>>>>>>> need to disentangle those conflicts, eliminate weak positions, and work to
>>>>>>>>>>>> seek and create common ground based on a clear, rich sophisticated
>>>>>>>>>>>> sense-making and deep value codes that can stretch across the
>>>>>>>>>>>> socio-ecological levels of (in)dividual, dyadic, family, small group,
>>>>>>>>>>>> community, state, nation, transnational and global.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gregg
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>> james lyons-weiler, phd
>>>>>>>>> Author, CEO, President, Scientist
>>>>>>>>> Editor-in-Chief, Science, Public Health Policy, and the Law
>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.publichealthpolicyjournal.com_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=sllb8P2BxAbyIjAbR2j6asv_0446rYYjNCAo-GoLygw&s=UmdT1B8T3JWYV6QmNWxfmkXAzkd6HRGopAuQ-dQL1bc&e=>
>>>>>>>>> Guest Contributor, Children's Health Defense
>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__childrenshealthdefense.org&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=sllb8P2BxAbyIjAbR2j6asv_0446rYYjNCAo-GoLygw&s=WfmYRqWO-7n-52na5e7qD3Hm7imFJlOhFwl5fjJw6FA&e=>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Environmental and Genetic Causes of Autism
>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__amzn.to_1KNSxPp&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=sllb8P2BxAbyIjAbR2j6asv_0446rYYjNCAo-GoLygw&s=4tRilo4je86mvXuFSL_WPoWNo6gUc9LWUC1TUM2D9hU&e=>
>>>>>>>>> (Skyhorse Publishing)
>>>>>>>>> Cures vs. Profits: Successes in Translational Research
>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.amazon.com_gp_product_9814730149_ref-3Das-5Fli-5Fqf-5Fsp-5Fasin-5Fil-5Ftl-3Fie-3DUTF8-26camp-3D1789-26creative-3D9325-26creativeASIN-3D9814730149-26linkCode-3Das2-26tag-3Dlivgrelivwel-2D20&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=sllb8P2BxAbyIjAbR2j6asv_0446rYYjNCAo-GoLygw&s=I9zcWOtsnINHx8aKDXrOPVJ_8FuSnocuWd5slkXtcko&e=> (World
>>>>>>>>> Scientific, 2016)
>>>>>>>>> Ebola: An Evolving Story
>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__amzn.to_1TGYY9r&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=sllb8P2BxAbyIjAbR2j6asv_0446rYYjNCAo-GoLygw&s=UvppKf9AhBK5ctxVpUg56l6N-EzmRTYspxbV_NnCtkA&e=>
>>>>>>>>> (World Scientific, 2015)
>>>>>>>>> cell 412-728-8743
>>>>>>>>> email [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>> www.*linkedin*.com/in/*jameslyonsweiler*
>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_jameslyonsweiler&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=sllb8P2BxAbyIjAbR2j6asv_0446rYYjNCAo-GoLygw&s=Y9BAGnW8J_6EdObtrXQfepIsSRzMB-qmftO3dmW9NUQ&e=>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> james lyons-weiler, phd
>>>>>>> Author, CEO, President, Scientist
>>>>>>> Editor-in-Chief, Science, Public Health Policy, and the Law
>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.publichealthpolicyjournal.com_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=D-9ZbkJ3UKJEqsE3Xl0MZ4WVjgIoHLzqIgKsT1Zylng&s=vgW6t5Qj9bodrQ1dQ54_Tu0ftOnyF27SXP6-Zir_WAs&e=>
>>>>>>> Guest Contributor, Children's Health Defense
>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__childrenshealthdefense.org&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=D-9ZbkJ3UKJEqsE3Xl0MZ4WVjgIoHLzqIgKsT1Zylng&s=IG-W0HWgt-TH7DS8foKhSn7RgjUiMGvVnLMXwo9ICt0&e=>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Environmental and Genetic Causes of Autism
>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__amzn.to_1KNSxPp&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=D-9ZbkJ3UKJEqsE3Xl0MZ4WVjgIoHLzqIgKsT1Zylng&s=FPwYmAIjJjQ6jrCets2iWj1thjMF_IZANqxawbclvZA&e=>
>>>>>>> (Skyhorse Publishing)
>>>>>>> Cures vs. Profits: Successes in Translational Research
>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.amazon.com_gp_product_9814730149_ref-3Das-5Fli-5Fqf-5Fsp-5Fasin-5Fil-5Ftl-3Fie-3DUTF8-26camp-3D1789-26creative-3D9325-26creativeASIN-3D9814730149-26linkCode-3Das2-26tag-3Dlivgrelivwel-2D20&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=D-9ZbkJ3UKJEqsE3Xl0MZ4WVjgIoHLzqIgKsT1Zylng&s=b-7PQy6ZLJye-X2taQPeYAUqg7juprYpqS_WP4zdKQI&e=> (World
>>>>>>> Scientific, 2016)
>>>>>>> Ebola: An Evolving Story
>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__amzn.to_1TGYY9r&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=D-9ZbkJ3UKJEqsE3Xl0MZ4WVjgIoHLzqIgKsT1Zylng&s=Qgfw9O83wc85sSjgDLobUjdJ57BxzN4JU9d3HbXuKoY&e=>
>>>>>>> (World Scientific, 2015)
>>>>>>> cell 412-728-8743
>>>>>>> email [log in to unmask]
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ---
>>>>> james lyons-weiler, phd
>>>>> Author, CEO, President, Scientist
>>>>> Editor-in-Chief, Science, Public Health Policy, and the Law
>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.publichealthpolicyjournal.com_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=UxyEqsGIFaHCnM0ZtQjUuKFutQYE5MUomtACQH8hOWw&s=kHVVabqhZepKj6V9WiKZJiS-akS-DhR2S9sz5E2cKb4&e=>
>>>>> Guest Contributor, Children's Health Defense
>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__childrenshealthdefense.org&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=UxyEqsGIFaHCnM0ZtQjUuKFutQYE5MUomtACQH8hOWw&s=JGqFMNxW7MRPzg_voCkLyldH_339AvFGg4YNXrheovk&e=>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Environmental and Genetic Causes of Autism
>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__amzn.to_1KNSxPp&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=UxyEqsGIFaHCnM0ZtQjUuKFutQYE5MUomtACQH8hOWw&s=YASNrlDcI_gVEvsLQoEYBkXdxCXxd7x0aKC-Tem-3CU&e=>
>>>>> (Skyhorse Publishing)
>>>>> Cures vs. Profits: Successes in Translational Research
>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.amazon.com_gp_product_9814730149_ref-3Das-5Fli-5Fqf-5Fsp-5Fasin-5Fil-5Ftl-3Fie-3DUTF8-26camp-3D1789-26creative-3D9325-26creativeASIN-3D9814730149-26linkCode-3Das2-26tag-3Dlivgrelivwel-2D20&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=UxyEqsGIFaHCnM0ZtQjUuKFutQYE5MUomtACQH8hOWw&s=e7DmrbWEAcOz6irZMZ_k-N3iXZE9vuVYl2W0JOlkL8o&e=> (World
>>>>> Scientific, 2016)
>>>>> Ebola: An Evolving Story
>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__amzn.to_1TGYY9r&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=UxyEqsGIFaHCnM0ZtQjUuKFutQYE5MUomtACQH8hOWw&s=BiWqdMsZFofVA8WwGDYg3gsyK3F8NI_dGpVr-Jh1uck&e=>
>>>>> (World Scientific, 2015)
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