This dialogue is not only consolidating intellectually, but helpful to me personally. Ken, the simple three-stage graphic felt immediately and positively orienting. Thank you! -Chance On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Fowers, Blaine J <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I enjoyed the piece by Brooks as well. I have a somewhat similar, but > importantly different alternative to individualism. It is based on the > concept of collective identity and the idea that our individual identities > are socially constituted. Just in case anyone has interest in a rather > academic account of collective identity and its evolution, neuroscience, > and moral core (or just needs a soporific), I've plucked a chapter from > my book The Evolution of Ethics. > > Blaine > > > Blaine J. Fowers, Ph.D. > Professor > Department of Educational and > Psychological Studies > Merrick 312 > 5202 University Dr. > Coral Gables, FL 33146 > 305-284-5261 (o) > 305-284-3003 (f) > > Frailty, Suffering, and Vice: Flourishing in the Face of Human Limitations > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.apa.org_pubs_books_4317447.aspx&d=DwMF-g&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=4wlsij21k2xBgp0IKOXpxbbk_3O9Y9m3YsfgybFlCe0&s=rTu74FoNho5BXBsrPSctmOinf4DNs0NDHQ7UxAkpvgs&e=> > > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.palgrave.com_page_results_-3FSTEM-3Dtrue-26SF1-3Dkword-5Findex-252Cidentifier-26SORT-3Dmat-5Frank-5Fus-252Fd-26SF99-3Dlang-5Ftoggle-26ST99-3Dus-26ST1-3Dthe-2Bevolution-2Bof-2Bethics&d=DwMF-g&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=4wlsij21k2xBgp0IKOXpxbbk_3O9Y9m3YsfgybFlCe0&s=rHRJjtrKXMVeFvMp6AMASs_13tPJk9uYoQA3Fz4UWJo&e=> > > > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.palgrave.com_page_results_-3FSTEM-3Dtrue-26SF1-3Dkword-5Findex-252Cidentifier-26SORT-3Dmat-5Frank-5Fus-252Fd-26SF99-3Dlang-5Ftoggle-26ST99-3Dus-26ST1-3Dthe-2Bevolution-2Bof-2Bethics&d=DwMF-g&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=4wlsij21k2xBgp0IKOXpxbbk_3O9Y9m3YsfgybFlCe0&s=rHRJjtrKXMVeFvMp6AMASs_13tPJk9uYoQA3Fz4UWJo&e=>The > Evolution of Ethics > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.palgrave.com_us_book_9781137344656-23otherversion-3D9781349466139&d=DwMF-g&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=4wlsij21k2xBgp0IKOXpxbbk_3O9Y9m3YsfgybFlCe0&s=GzyD-pRIFdtZXR8KisSyeknx4gfg5G1JUsJrqRdV13g&e=> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__blainefowers.com&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=T-YMOjz6Wzmm-DeCN1BIWD9OPEn7E-xIpsb78WOvKUs&s=08UkQc2wHsWQrdrBM_COgDAkHUTfPXEEGdrsVABiFUI&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__blainefowers.com&d=DwMF-g&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=4wlsij21k2xBgp0IKOXpxbbk_3O9Y9m3YsfgybFlCe0&s=wT6-GJJPkTR_lPogGinLckA1oCpjVnhPG-FaVwKu4ts&e=> > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* tree of knowledge system discussion <[log in to unmask] > edu> on behalf of Joseph Michalski <[log in to unmask]> > *Sent:* Friday, June 15, 2018 3:50 PM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > > *Subject:* Re: Personalism by Brooks > > > Thanks everyone for sharing these thoughts and articles. Absolutely loved > reading your piece, Dave -- well done! I guess I've long struggled to > convey precisely that narrative to change the conversation among the > extremists at either end of the individualist-collectivist continuum. > Thanks again, -Joe > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* tree of knowledge system discussion <[log in to unmask] > edu> on behalf of Dave Pruett <[log in to unmask]> > *Sent:* Friday, June 15, 2018 2:36 PM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: Personalism by Brooks > > All, > > I am not, in general, a David Brooks fan. But his article on > "personalism," sent by Gregg, is right-on in IMHO. > > And here is a HuffPo essay of mine, from May 2017, on virtually the same > topic: > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.huffingtonpost.com_entry_the-2Dfallacy-2Din-2Dthe-2D&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=T-YMOjz6Wzmm-DeCN1BIWD9OPEn7E-xIpsb78WOvKUs&s=_cIvWi6K3y2EBNJ6_4YK-ZXHifw_e4YkKlQ6pTexwss&e= > cultur_b_7291684.html > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Furldefense.proofpoint.com-252Fv2-252Furl-253Fu-253Dhttps-2D3A-5F-5Fwww.huffingtonpost.com-5Fentry-5Fthe-2D2Dfallacy-2D2Din-2D2Dthe-2D2Dcultur-2D5Fb-2D5F7291684.html-2526d-253DDwMFaQ-2526c-253DeLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn-5F5nBEmmeq0-2526r-253DHPo1IXYDhKClogP-2DUOpybo6Cfxxz-2DjIYBgjO2gOz4-2DA-2526m-253DS2iRN70o2-5FpeR15NtXf54rWlEWSorTMG9s5VjFTiF1g-2526s-253DNvGqfJrAFQythblnNDhcJp09A-2DiuXhp5HFR5hmGzmWk-2526e-253D-26data-3D02-257C01-257Cbfowers-2540MIAMI.EDU-257Cebeab957e06f488c65a708d5d2f968df-257C2a144b72f23942d48c0e6f0f17c48e33-257C0-257C0-257C636646891037963856-26sdata-3DOnY88iGqLDgwrDn0G9jhhMHRUSVZUhjNoAOlpFj4xX0-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMF-g&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=4wlsij21k2xBgp0IKOXpxbbk_3O9Y9m3YsfgybFlCe0&s=xVkfAp6ofYpJ30Ao6LA83OdJk4-67ilq_zcOzd0u-oc&e=> > > Cheers all, > Dave > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 12:41 PM, Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Hi List, > > Don’t mean to clog the email, but I wanted to share this post by David > Brooks on the Philosophy of Personalism: > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.nytimes.com_2018_06_14_opinion_personalism-2Dphilo&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=T-YMOjz6Wzmm-DeCN1BIWD9OPEn7E-xIpsb78WOvKUs&s=Ymv3RhgjrP7AVc_h84KmAj97qwFsYeh1ZOImf6wjPFk&e= > sophy-collectivism-fragmentation.html?action=click&pgtype= > Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col- > left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav= > opinion-c-col-left-region > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__www.nytimes.com_2018_06_14_opinion_personalism-2Dphilosophy-2Dcollectivism-2Dfragmentation.html-3Faction-3Dclick-26pgtype-3DHomepage-26clickSource-3Dstory-2Dheading-26module-3Dopinion-2Dc-2Dcol-2Dleft-2Dregion-26region-3Dopinion-2Dc-2Dcol-2Dleft-2Dregion-26WT.nav-3Dopinion-2Dc-2Dcol-2Dleft-2Dregion%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DeLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0%26r%3DHPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A%26m%3DS2iRN70o2_peR15NtXf54rWlEWSorTMG9s5VjFTiF1g%26s%3DV29G3ZJYVnK1WHwJqw1Af5LSCsflyECZyIFzCFS4XSk%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cbfowers%40MIAMI.EDU%7Cebeab957e06f488c65a708d5d2f968df%7C2a144b72f23942d48c0e6f0f17c48e33%7C0%7C0%7C636646891037963856&sdata=NC4N4owgQIgG7F%2B52KtARCtNpjD25JeZCiZcMkGq8q0%3D&reserved=0> > > > > I have been in individual conversations with many of you about the > possible thrust of the TOK Society and one of the issues that pops up over > and over again is developing a statement about the current state of affairs > and the direction we should be headed in in terms of relational structure, > knowledge, wisdom, science and philosophy. This is the kind of article that > provides some shared reference point for thinking about these issues, and I > hope at some point we will be able to issue some sort of joint statement. > > > Best, > > Gregg > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the > following link: http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bi > n/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252Flistserv.jmu.edu-252Fcgi-2Dbin-252Fwa-253FSUBED1-253DTOK-2DSOCIETY-2DL-2526A-253D1-26data-3D02-257C01-257Cbfowers-2540MIAMI.EDU-257Cebeab957e06f488c65a708d5d2f968df-257C2a144b72f23942d48c0e6f0f17c48e33-257C0-257C0-257C636646891037963856-26sdata-3DO57q-252BB2BlILLJxNlcDrcwGA9-252FsQkJkoTnmGmRzuO-252Fu8-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMF-g&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=4wlsij21k2xBgp0IKOXpxbbk_3O9Y9m3YsfgybFlCe0&s=6--jOC1WlAxZ31oE00i108yD8XOWuYFC6kxgS-b06rg&e=> > > > > > -- > C. 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