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Re: TOK Koch on Consciousness
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Waldemar Schmidt <[log in to unmask]>
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tree of knowledge system discussion <[log in to unmask]>
Date:
Tue, 23 Mar 2021 08:56:19 -0700
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Good - no - great idea!
I’ve really missed our zooms.

Waldemar A Schmidt, PhD, MD
(Perseveret et Percipiunt)
503.631.8044

Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value. (A Einstein)

> On Mar 23, 2021, at 6:15 AM, Brent Allsop <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Great.
> I'm assuming that is Eastern time (I'm Mountain Daylight time)
> I added that to my calendar.
> Thanks.
> Brent
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> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 4:22 AM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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>   How about we do an open discussion on subjective conscious experience/qualia from 1-3 on Friday, April 2?
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> We can see if we can sync up your understanding of Representational Qualia Theory and my descriptive metaphysical system for Mind (i.e., framed by Mind as the third dimension of the ToK and the Map of Mind1,2,3).
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> I can send out a zoom link to the list and anyone who wants can join us and listen in.
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> From: tree of knowledge system discussion <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Brent Allsop
> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2021 7:34 PM
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> Yea, So far, I'm free all-day Friday Apr 2.  Go ahead and pick a time.
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> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 7:27 AM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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> That sounds good, Brent. We can have an open dialogos on Mapping the Mind and consciousness. We can summarize Representational Qualia Theory and the Map of Mind 1,2,3 and then see if we can line up our ontological/epistemological mapping.
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> Next week I am pretty slammed, but looking out at the following Friday (Apr 2), I am free. Is there a time between 10 and 4 that could work for you?
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> From: tree of knowledge system discussion <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Brent Allsop
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 4:52 PM
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> Subject: Re: TOK Koch on Consciousness
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> Hi Greg,
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> Yea, that'd be great.  I've felt bad that haven't been able to fully understand much of what I sense is great stuff about all this.
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> Maybe we should set up a skype meeting, or something, some time and invite anyone else that wants to get personal tutelage from you?
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> On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 10:32 AM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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> Brent,
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>   I am happy to set up a dialogos and see if we can align our systems of understanding.
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> Best,
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> From: tree of knowledge system discussion <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Brent Allsop
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 12:23 PM
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> Subject: Re: TOK Koch on Consciousness
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> On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 6:13 AM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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>   The statement IS the case. It is the epistemological gap across first and third person perspectives. Thanks for sharing your analysis. I am not sure it makes things unambiguous.
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> There is still stuff I have a hard time understanding with your model.  Which statemen is the case?  And if we discover which of all our descriptions of stuff in the brain is a description of the behavior of redness, and once we have an intrinsic subjective definition (know the color of) things like glutamate, how will any of that be ambiguous?  And that is the weakest form of effing the ineffable, to say nothing of the stronger and strongest form of effing the ineffable <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_X0mAKz7eLRc-3Ft-3D142&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=HvSahCbSnPPNCb0BF1fEnmpvQZ61zD26L22SFHHDZ2c&s=l5WGW14Wa9FtbQAlGsuKYR7_y1uigcQKFIanr83FsEU&e=>.
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