Hi everyone.
Really: no words for the tragedy of this...
It has been clear to me for some time that our entire social system is
committing suicide. This is coming from someone working in the field of
existential risk. Apply all your classic suicide diagnostics to the current
world system and the results are not good. A confrontation with
self-annihilation defines our epoch; we are as a world in a kind of
adolescent suicide crisis. In this sense the teens are killing themselves
because they are simply doing what they are told, i.e., the are taking the
signals the social system puts out more seriously than the adults, and thus
are actually being "socialized" into a self-terminating social system. They
are not despairing *at* the state of the world, they *are* the state of the
world.
Given this I agree with almost everything said so far:
-deteriorated contexts for early socialization (bio-psycho-social );
-overarching ideological failures (meaning crisis);
-nearing total lack of play and physical experience in childhood;
-pronounced lack of reasonable public discourse about sex and sexuality;
-memetic desire and violence on social media;
-profound family system disruption;
etc.
I will add that the story with psychiatric medications is not a good one,
and David Healy's work (e.g. *The Anti-depressant Era* etc) is essential
reading, as is *The Anatomy of an Epidemic* by Robert Whitaker. Long story
short: there are high probabilities that SSRIs can *increase* the
likelihood of suicide. Not really looking to debate this here unless
someone has taken the time to read these books. Just saying that it is not
only that medicating the kids is philosophically/ethically problematic (it
is!); it is also that these medications are actually physically dangerous
and should be used (if at all) with extreme caution, especially in
adolescent and childhood populations, and in combination (cocktail
effects). Currently the opposite is the case: prescriptions of multiple
psychiatric drugs to children and teens are skyrocketing. The article that
kick started this thread was a direct to consumer advertisement, as far as
I can tell.
To further deepen this I offer some notes I took on one of James Hillman's
master works, *Suicide and The Soul* (I have posted some of these notes
here before I think). The idea with the notes is to explore the question
from another angle, so that we might read the signs/meanings in the tragic.
What are the soul's of these teens saying to us?
What is the soul of the world (anima mundi) saying to us?
Cold moonlight on the snow here in Vermont.
zak
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REVI:
- [20_19/09/05;04:50:50.00].
- initial draft.
ABST:
- the basic metapsychological insights
from what might be Hillman's most radical work.
LOGS:
- [20_19/09/05;04:50:50.00]:.
- where cite; James Hillman, 1964; 1976:.
] Suicide and the Soul.
- where contrasting/considering views on suicide
from the perspectives of sociology, law, theology,
medicine, and psychology/philosophy;.
- where from the perspective of sociology:.
- that suicide (rates) tell us something
about the condition of society:.
- a weakling of social bonds.
- alienation / oppression.
- that statistical laws determine numbers
and types of suicides.
- that research should be done to:.
- explain suicide.
- find a means of prevention.
- where from the perspective of law:.
- that suicide has been declared illegal
by the three great traditions upon which
Western legal systems stand:.
- Roman law.
- Church law.
- English law.
- that we are ordered by law to live.
- that modern guarantees to liberty
have not included a right to suicide.
- that suicide is explained as a kind of injustice;.
- where a breach in the social contract occurs;.
- as an asymmetric and violent
display of individuality.
- as selfish power-over the group.
- where from the perspective of theology:.
- that suicide is a "sin"/ grave existential mistake;.
- that from the ten commandments on
God has said:
- "thou Shall not Kill".
- that this applies to the self;
- where despite the waiver/pass/allowance
of killing for:.
- war.
- animals.
- plants.
- that theology has a dread of suicide
above all other forms of killing.
- that we are ordered by God/Church to live;.
- that it is only God's right/power to kill;.
- as suicide is a usurpation of God's right/power.
- that we are not our own creators;.
- as only God creates life
so only God can destroy it.
- that along with law and sociology
theology believes:.
- death must be exogenous.
- vistaed upon us through the world by:.
- enemy.
- accident.
- disease.
- that we do not carry death within us;.
- that is does not reside in the soul.
- that there is a counter position in theology:.
- where martyrdom as suicide is praised;.
- as part of the omnipotence of God
working through the human soul;.
- that the human choice/soul is a place
where God is revealed/enacted;.
- as necessitating engaging with the unique soul
to understand a unique suicide;.
- where God speaks through the act.
- where from the perspective of medicine:.
- that the physician's intentions are to:.
- prevent illness.
- treat illness.
- heal and if possible cure.
- discover and fight diseases.
- repair.
- encourage.
- allay pain.
- the promotion of life is first
in the hierarchy of values in medicine.
- that the physician may therefore be justified:.
- using most any means to prevent suicide:.
- capture.
- sedate/drug.
- restrain/institutionalize.
- make accessible/pliable for
interview/diagnosis.
- that it is not the physician's concern:.
- that these measures used to save
physical life
end up destroying
the self/soul/locus of choice.
- that the physician is not tasked with:.
- aiding psychic growth.
- attending to psychological health.
- evaluating / measuring outcomes
in psychological terms.
- that the measures of a physician's success
are measurements of physical states of the body:.
- that the central measure here
is the life expectancy curve;.
- that promoting life
has come to mean
prolonging life.
- that because of the physician's noble self-definition:.
- to preserve and prolong life;.
-that physicians are unable to investigate
suicide objectively:.
- the limits of the medical viewpoint are reached.
- that physicians must therefore
do anything to prevent it.
- where considering the above four fields/viewpoints/perspectives
of sociology, law, theology, and medicine:.
- that their main concerns are with
the explanation and prevention of suicide;.
- that this arises because:
- the models are tinged with a dread of death.
- the models have no adequate place for death
in their system of thought/practice.
- there is no concern for understanding
the psyche/soul experience/meaning of suicide.
- that suicide prevention may be disguised suicide prejudice;.
- as based on a fundamental dead of death.
- where considering the problem/issue/reality of suicide:.
- as a psychologist/ philosopher;.
- that a unique possibility for objectivity arises:.
- different from the perspectives of:.
- law.
- sociology.
- theology.
- medicine.
- that the philosopher / psychologist seeks:.
- to understand death/suicide.
- not to explain or prevent death/suicide.
- to be concerned first with
the health of the soul/psyche;
- with standards of judgment/evaluation
that concern psychological life
not physical life.
- that suicide shows:.
- that the body can be destroyed
by "mere fantasy"/ideas.
- that the reality of the psyche
is a reality equal to that of the body.
- that the idea of soul/psyche
involves/needs/co-defines
the experience of death.
- that suicide is a problem of the soul.
- where considering suicide as a problem of the soul:.
- that there are many archetypes of suicide;.
- that as a form/logic of psyche:
euthanasia is different from despair
is different from honor, etc.
- that Socrates differs from Judas
as two of the first "modern/Western" suicides.
- that many individuals are overpowered
by an urge to find their own archetypal/symbolic death.
- that every death is an archetypal/symbolic death;
- that social system deny this, and:.
- occlude the uniqueness/meaning of each death.
- efface the uniqueness/meaning of each life.
- that some forms of suicide
are the soul's reaction to/rejection of this.
- that understanding a person's death (including suicide)
from the psychological perspective (of "soul"):.
- is different from explaining it medically.
- means knowing the mythic fantasy/archetypal structure
being enacted;.
- in speech.
- in gesture.
- in action.
- where considering the term "soul";.
- that "soul" not a scientific term;.
- that "soul" is part of the root metaphor
of the psychological point of view.
- that "soul" concerns the:.
- "inside".
- meaning.
- suffering.
- experience.
- of (other) people;.
- gained through:.
- sympathy.
- insight.
- converstation.
- trust.
- that we can know someone elses/our own "soul"
without being able to scientifically describe it.
- that (so-called) "primitive" languages and worldviews
from Eskimos to Egypt:.
- have elaborate systems of concepts about "soul".
- make "soul" out to be of great importance.
- that the "soul" is:
- the inner man.
- the inner sister/spouse.
- the place/voice of God within.
- a cosmic force in which humans participate.
- God given conscience.
- harmony.
- fire.
- tempted by "the Devil".
- developed/known through spiritual disciplines.
- on a journey.
- known in dreams.
- known after death.
- of the ancestors.
- of "the other world."
- that other (English) words associated with "soul" are:.
- mind.
- spirit.
- heart.
- life.
- warmth.
- humanness.
- personality,
- individuality.
- intentionality.
- inner most.
- purpose.
- emotion.
- quality.
- virtue.
- morality.
- sin.
- wisdom.
- death.
- God.
- that a "soul" can be said to be:.
- troubled.
- old.
- disembodied.
- immortal.
- lost.
- innocent.
- inspired.
- that one is "soulless"
who shows no mercy.
- that one can "search one's soul."
- that one's "soul" can be on trial.
- that the "soul" and the body:
- are different.
- are the same.
- that the "soul" can not be defined;.
- that "soul" is not a concept but a symbol.
- that "soul" is:.
- deliberately ambiguous.
- resisting all definition.
- as do all ultimate symbols;.
- that serve/provide as/for
the root metaphor(s)/archetypes
for systems of human thought, such as:.
- Matter.
- Nature.
- Energy.
- Life.
- Health.
- Justice.
- God.
- That "soul" is not more of an obfuscation
then other axiomatic first principles.
- where considering the death experience
from the perspective of psychology/soul;.
- that the death experience has been neglected:.
- not studied.
- not theorized.
- only viewed as a medical problem:.
- not as an experience of the "soul".
- that the death experience should not
be confused with physical death.
- that the psychologist needs a philosophy of death;.
- that Plato said:
- philosophy is the pursuit of death and dying.
- philosophy is death's rehearsal.
- that philosophy must think life and death together
and not as forces in opposition:.
- that the day I am born I being to die.
- that each event in my life
makes a contribution to my death.
- that death is entered/pursued continually.
- that I build my unique death through choice.
- that all death is a kind of suicide.
- that we live in order to die.
- that life takes on value through death.
- that we do not know if the "soul" dies.
- that the death experience
can not be put off till old age:.
- that organic death has absolute power
over life when death has not been allowed
in the midst of life.
- that we are obliged to go to death
before it comes to us.
- that going towards death consciously:.
- is a major human achievement.
- is admired in religious/cultural heroes.
- that there is a demand for fuller life
satisfied through the death experience.
- that until we can say no to life
we have not really said yes.
- that the death experience is needed:.
- to discover individuality.
- to break free/separate
from the collective flow of life.
- that the more imminent the death experience
the more possibility there is for transformation.
- that suicide can be:.
- a mistaken impulse for radical transformation.
- a misunderstanding of a need for death experience.
- a concerte misinterpretation
of a psychological necessity.
- as too radical/pressing a need
on the part of the soul/psyche
for immediate knowing/being with
the Wholly Other.
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> *I acknowledge my presence at the University of Notre Dame on the
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> have been using this land for education for thousands of years, and
> continue to do so.*
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>
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:40 AM Alexander Bard <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Friends
>>
>> I believe the root cause is the ideology we had before social media
>> arrived and where social media then has put gasoline on the fire so to
>> speak.
>> And that is the utter loneliness of radical individualism, a society
>> where everybody is fighting everybody else, for attention and for social
>> reward, in a constant battle of all against all.
>> Human beings are deeply tribal and social creatures. Unless we understand
>> that quickly and start working accordingly this issue is only going to get
>> worse and worse.
>> Youth suicide rates in Europe and North America are not only at record
>> highs, they are this high despite all the successes of modern psychiatry
>> (which caused the lowering rates between 1970-1999).
>> So the crisis is much deeper and more profund than we have been willing
>> to acknowledge. And the roots are to be found in The Enlightenment in the
>> 1600s rather than just in contemporary media usages.
>> That kids are taught to compare themselves against each other (and their
>> unattainable idols) rather than collaborate is what is existentially
>> shocking and abnormal.
>>
>> Best intentions
>> Alexander Bard
>>
>> Den tis 7 jan. 2020 kl 17:29 skrev Joseph Michalski <[log in to unmask]>:
>>
>>> Dear Chris:
>>>
>>> I think we can all appreciate your perspective, both in terms of the
>>> work that you do and in terms of your more personal context. I would expect
>>> nothing but thoughtful, supportive comments from a list such as this, given
>>> the nature of who's involved. Few of us are truly experts on the subject,
>>> but I suspect that many have some familiarity with the research and some
>>> have published in the area. Just a brief couple of points based on my own
>>> background and knowledge of the subject matter.
>>>
>>> First, I always try to get a handle on the most reliable data. Suicide
>>> rates have been climbing steadily upward in the U.S. for the past two
>>> decades, for example, but perhaps not quite as dramatically as the media
>>> have portrayed. Back in 1950, the death rate for suicide in the United
>>> States stood at 21.2/100,000 for males and 5.5/100,000 among females.By
>>> the year 2000, the figures had dropped to relative "lows" of 17.7 and 4.1
>>> for males & females. But there has been a steady climb over the past two
>>> decades, such that in 2017, there were 22.4 male and 6.1 female deaths
>>> by suicide per 100,000 resident population. Hence, we are confident that
>>> the problem has been increasing over the last two decades.
>>>
>>> The key question, of course, is "why"? That's where people like Gregg
>>> and perhaps others on the list can offer some greater insights. For
>>> example, you ask about whether social media adds to feelings of depression
>>> and anxiety that could lead to self-harm and even suicidal thoughts. The
>>> short answer would be, "yes" - but that has to be placed in the broader
>>> context of social and cultural changes that have occurred, and not just
>>> purely a matter of technology or the introduction of the iphone. But
>>> technology and e-communications are profoundly changing the way in which we
>>> interact and connect, as many on this list can attest and comment on
>>> further. My concern is that we have only the most limited and imperfect
>>> research to try to demonstrate the "causal" linkages between social media
>>> and these influences that you have mentioned. We need far more robust
>>> research and longitudinal studies, in my view, to tease out the mechanisms
>>> that produce higher (or lower) rates of depression and anxiety. These are
>>> not "new" phenomena, to be sure, but the degree to which social media may
>>> have an adverse impact has not been studied adequately in my opinion - and
>>> I've been looking for good research on the subject for the past few years.
>>> I've shared a few articles with our academic counselors on the depression
>>> among students in universities, but, again, the studies only show broad
>>> corollary effects of social media on depression - but the degree of that
>>> impact has not been separated from the host of other social, contextual
>>> factors such as living arrangements, degree of connectivity or community
>>> participation (e.g., we know that getting students out of their dorm rooms
>>> and involved in activities has a positive impact in reducing depression),
>>> or family situation and stressors, etc. And I'm not even getting into the
>>> psycho-biological foundations! Much more to be said, by many on this list
>>> and others. Yours kindly, -Joe
>>>
>>> Dr. Joseph H. Michalski
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* tree of knowledge system discussion <
>>> [log in to unmask]> on behalf of Christopher Hadnagy <
>>> [log in to unmask]>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 7, 2020 10:27 AM
>>> *To:* [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Why are teens killing themselves at alarming rates
>>>
>>>
>>> I rarely comment in this thread, as I feel wholly unqualified to sit at
>>> the table with the minds that Gregg has collected here. But this topic is
>>> one I often come in contact with during my work running the ILF (
>>> www.innocentlivesfoundation.org
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.innocentlivesfoundation.org&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=_THkEKzmYZomBS2wplN7CHh-3nWuCGP61prFTM1rq6M&s=R3qFY_ueVm0WNXUI2sJeaBlt6d2AmzWH2mHGroTNlWI&e=>
>>> )
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have questions, that I want to pose but I feel they are questions that
>>> can start a fiery debate and I do not want to be a the receiving end of
>>> scathing criticism as I realize my knowledge on these topics is probably
>>> not up to par with the rest of you, so please take these are real questions
>>> I am asking as a parent, as a person who works with saving abused kids and
>>> as a 40 something that grew up in a world that went from low tech to all
>>> tech and from hard lines to almost invisible lines.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The topic of growing teen suicide is troubling to me, my daughter who is
>>> 15 has an ever increasing number of friends who cut, burn, self harm and
>>> talk about ending it all. We have lost over 5 friends in the last 1.5
>>> years to suicide, not counting the ones I know I would not consider close.
>>> Yes it seems easy to want to medicate it away, but I sit back and I observe
>>> my daughter and her interactions with friends both IRL (real life) and
>>> online. And here are my questions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you think that the usage of social media adds to feelings of
>>> depression and anxiety that could lead to self-harm and even suicidal
>>> thoughts? I have noticed with my daughter the constant need to compare
>>> herself to the “life” she sees others having online.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you think the push to allow even very young children to choose a
>>> gender or be fluid with their identities is creating a rift in peacefulness
>>> and mindfulness? I find it so anxiety inducing to speak publicly, I do this
>>> a lot as part of my job. But something as simple as “Ladies and Gentlemen”
>>> will get met with harsh, SJW angst that makes me out to be a racist because
>>> I used that phrase.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I read an article that spoke about, even though the “metoo” movement was
>>> so positive for helping women find a voice for bad treatment, most young
>>> men who are not predators are so afraid of being accused they avoid sexual
>>> contact – do you think this lack of human contact and expression can lead
>>> to the increase in these behaviors?
>>>
>>> (re:
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.cbsnews.com_news_us-2Dfertility-2Dbirth-2Drate-2Ddecline-2Djodi-2Dkantor_&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=eP5WClGFRaGJugq6JkGOobyBP_yS9yXiNNA-rAYpz0A&s=MTkwS-OfA-Kg3bsBJT3UJh5aifQZ4YPqncikwuVwKDE&e=
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.cbsnews.com_news_us-2Dfertility-2Dbirth-2Drate-2Ddecline-2Djodi-2Dkantor_&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=_THkEKzmYZomBS2wplN7CHh-3nWuCGP61prFTM1rq6M&s=yU4fl34fq8bMA6WxFvOabPxdi_UKR9NhfcGcMeJZ0-A&e=>)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyhow, I will stop here, I am not one for long emails, I do apologize
>>> that my first time being involved in this discussion is at such
>>> controversial topics.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I look forward to your comments and thoughts.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *tree of knowledge system discussion <
>>> [log in to unmask]> on behalf of "Henriques, Gregg -
>>> henriqgx" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> *Reply-To: *tree of knowledge system discussion <
>>> [log in to unmask]>
>>> *Date: *Tuesday, January 7, 2020 at 9:54 AM
>>> *To: *"[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> *Subject: *Why are teens killing themselves at alarming rates
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi TOK List,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As you know, I have been tracking the mental health crisis in our
>>> youth. Here is a brief op-ed in the times reviewing some of the
>>> disconcerting data on depression and suicide rates among teens.
>>>
>>> *https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.nytimes.com_2020_01_06_opinion_suicide-2Dyoung-2Dpeople.html-3Fnl-3Dtodaysheadlines-26emc-3Dedit-5Fth-5F200107-3Fcampaign-5Fid-3D2-26instance-5Fid-3D14975-26segment-5Fid-3D20104-26user-5Fid-3D8e4f03af2447d5adeb5069c9fb9bdf47-26regi-5Fid-3D352238940107&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=eP5WClGFRaGJugq6JkGOobyBP_yS9yXiNNA-rAYpz0A&s=Ei5IyhjuC0xVJTDVXD8oZWXsyYgcJVsk0z9kYttw230&e=
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.nytimes.com_2020_01_06_opinion_suicide-2Dyoung-2Dpeople.html-3Fnl-3Dtodaysheadlines-26emc-3Dedit-5Fth-5F200107-3Fcampaign-5Fid-3D2-26instance-5Fid-3D14975-26segment-5Fid-3D20104-26user-5Fid-3D8e4f03af2447d5adeb5069c9fb9bdf47-26regi-5Fid-3D352238940107&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=_THkEKzmYZomBS2wplN7CHh-3nWuCGP61prFTM1rq6M&s=QD_DgGr7Jklxa6cqw5NVA6mB4zHYOwhIePUEOE-Ax2E&e=>*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It is by a psychiatrist, and, as is too often the case in psychiatry,
>>> depression is characterized in the piece as a disease like entity. Indeed,
>>> the author seems to believe that if we would only prescribe more meds, teen
>>> mental health would be better. I strongly disagree.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I also believe the piece is a good reminder why we need clear and
>>> straightforward discussions on what depression IS. FYI, I was invited to do
>>> an NPR academic minute on this topic, which will becoming out in march.
>>> Here are the takes if you want to get ahead of the release 😊.
>>>
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_sh_dms79kvhllm5mmt_AAAVQPmCkLBwLok1gKghcFipa-3Fdl-3D0&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=eP5WClGFRaGJugq6JkGOobyBP_yS9yXiNNA-rAYpz0A&s=lS-pihhehCSbE8Y4bfR3M1aBufe1td42arKu5pn2xSk&e=
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_sh_dms79kvhllm5mmt_AAAVQPmCkLBwLok1gKghcFipa-3Fdl-3D0&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=_THkEKzmYZomBS2wplN7CHh-3nWuCGP61prFTM1rq6M&s=K9KiQdTScIH-GYKKWcVZ44sMuOR5iTBSIQk-Iq8X5vE&e=>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is the basic question I would ask regarding these alarming rates: *Are
>>> we raising our children in an anti-fragile way that fosters in them the
>>> capacity to grow into adults who can love, play, and work with deep
>>> purpose? *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is what the kindergarten teachers are saying about the job we are
>>> doing in the schools:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_freedom-2Dlearn_201912_kindergarten-2Dteachers-2Dare-2Dquitting-2Dand-2Dhere-2Dis-2Dwhy&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=eP5WClGFRaGJugq6JkGOobyBP_yS9yXiNNA-rAYpz0A&s=2jTJjmWW1nBF93JQP1qYeL0vIf0myz9s-qXK5c3pY9Y&e=
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_freedom-2Dlearn_201912_kindergarten-2Dteachers-2Dare-2Dquitting-2Dand-2Dhere-2Dis-2Dwhy&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=_THkEKzmYZomBS2wplN7CHh-3nWuCGP61prFTM1rq6M&s=bpkXkx76T0V4tN8RtI8EERV7zds7PwTfFGKsoRB-ymw&e=>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Gregg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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