This is a fascinating rant against Peterson. I look forward to reading more about “metamodernism”.
Of course, the ToK/UTUA framework is offered as a “post post-modern grand meta-narrative”. I agree with Chance here that any such approach had better integrate archetypal and evolutionary thinking. Will see if metamodernism does that with any degree of sophistication.
Fun stuff, all of it.
Best,
Gregg
From: tree of knowledge system discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chance McDermott
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 11:39 PM
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Subject: Re: Jordan Peterson (again)
Hi Steve, thank you for sharing.
This is my first contact with Abramson. When Abramson explained Peterson as a dangerous demagogue, I found myself wanting him to explain it in clear terms rather than imply it was obvious. I do agree with him that Peterson is winning, and will continue to win, the intellectual and social battleground. My parting initial thought on Abramson is: "Good luck defining a stable post-post modern reality without understanding and accepting evolutionary and analytic psychology."
-Chance
On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 10:25 PM, nysa71 <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Steve,
I love it! It pretty much confirms what I suspected about Peterson....that he's an intellectual fraud. And probably an awful human being, as well.
~ Jason Bessey
On Saturday, May 19, 2018, 10:03:06 PM EDT, Steven Quackenbush <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Those ToK list serve members with an interest in Jordan Peterson might enjoy Seth Abramson's recent twitter thread exploring the cultural significance of the "Jordan Peterson" phenomenon: https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/997980968886644736<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_SethAbramson_status_997980968886644736&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=yfn0_vJxE90Rt5MYGKSZx5sY4KG9gsdAWdFfncSexjQ&s=RDe8OWAZXA618jEZAf3GsrVplYxeKxDC2JgC5uSV8u4&e=>
At the time of my writing, Seth is still constructing his thread. Here are a few excerpts (from the most recent tweets):
* Tweet 62: "...Peterson offers a dead end that lives more in 1318 than 2018..."
* Tweet 64: "...I fear the choice in America over the next few years will be between embracing a multiversal, five-dimensional post-postmodernism or being stuck—forced to eat—tired, one-dimensional, fundamentally fascist pap that looked new for a second."
* Tweet 69: "My advice (and view): it's okay to agree with Peterson on the first 1% of his worldview—that postmodernism must eventually be supplanted. But the key is to note that what Peterson wants to supplant it with would already have seemed passé by 1690. It's a *total joke* in 2018."
~ Steve Q.
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