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Waldemar Schmidt <[log in to unmask]>
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Valuable comments, Mike and Gregg.
I agree the term “mental illness” leads us into all sorts of thickets and brambles - and, away from understanding.
If I may, I want to share some insight I have acquired - as a someone who is not a psychologist, psychiatrist, psychotherapist, etc.

To wit, there appear to be two major categories of “mental distress” resulting in difficulties:

Those who have some sort of mind/brain/body dysfunction which has resulted in a mind/brain/body incapable of effective function.  These folks are burdened with what is termed psychosis and other entities - such as autism disorder, schizophrenia, major depressive disorder, bipolar disorder, etc.  In particular cases this situation may be temporary, such as with intoxications.  They can be aided with psychotherapy, training, medications, etc, but cannot (at present) be “cured” of their affliction. 
Those who have a mind/brain/body which is fully capable of effective function - but their application of their mind/brain/body isn’t as effective as it is capable of being.  These are folks with what is termed neurosis - notably not a psychosis, although their dysfunctional application of their mind/brain/body may be associated with enough deviation from “normal” as to mimic psychosis.  It is possible, at least conceptually, to aid these patients with psychotherapy, training, medications, etc, so that their use of their mind/brain/body is maximized - in this sense, they might be considered “cured."

When we lump both of these categories into “mental disease” we impede meaningful discussion.
The first may be recognized as a true disease, even though etiologies are poorly understood.
The second is not a disease - any more than a sprained ankle is a disease - these are afflictions, by whatever means they arose.
When we lump these two categories we produce a concept devoid of meaning - no wonder there is a funding paucity for related research.

I agree wholeheartedly with the need for an appropriate nosology and lexicon.

So, comments from the peanut gallery!

Best regards,

Waldemar

Waldemar A Schmidt, PhD, MD
(Perseveret et Percipiunt)
503.631.8044

Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value. (A Einstein)

> On Jul 13, 2021, at 7:16 AM, Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> This is an interesting post. And it is from the “empirical science-heavy” list serve I am on. Figured I would share.
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> Best,
> Gregg
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> From: Society for a Science of Clinical Psychology <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Sarah Victor
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> Subject: [SSCPNET] Call for Signatories – Lived Experience of Mental Illness among US/Canadian Psychology Faculty
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> In early 2021, the largest known survey of mental health difficulties in clinical, counseling, and school psychology programs in the United States and Canada was conducted. Over 2,000 people responded, and the results were striking: 82% reported experiencing mental health difficulties in their lifetime, and 48% reported having been diagnosed with a mental illness. The preprint of the publication presenting these findings is available on OSF here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__psyarxiv.com_xbfr6_&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=lDETr7Gnay26rvIcRK7cJHgJbsm2OmGVWbUpAJBAr4s&s=u2wqIGw3viAwdXddrmZquMrHYy7kCHpNeo4ss81g2p8&e=  <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fpsyarxiv.com-252Fxbfr6-252F-26data-3D04-257C01-257CSSCPNET-2540listserv.temple.edu-257Cf26f85e4b64a49e04ad808d94606aeae-257C716e81efb52244738e3110bd02ccf6e5-257C0-257C0-257C637617816777629975-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C3000-26sdata-3DrJumOezUqbDUBB3QcElDuTH-252FJwHH-252FfCHVoIn-252Fp7aOrU-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMF-g&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=wjF8cZoiFchamTuxBdDEmw&m=e1mX9q-E_AvJSmXKTMbrv_yTKVxg91NdsMZFn-P90P4&s=XDkKPqxfNWwwFJ2irT7b1EzDw_6Wn9ebktTu0z9bVG8&e=>. In spite of the obvious relevance of these experiences to the research and clinical efforts in our fields, mental illness among psychology graduate students and faculty has long been under-recognized and subject to implicit and explicit silencing within academic psychology.
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> Dr. Jessica Schleider, Assistant Professor, Stony Brook University
> Dr. Brooke Ammerman, Assistant Professor, University of Notre Dame
> Dr. Daniel Bradford, Assistant Professor, Oregon State University (fall 2021)
> Andrew Devendorf, Graduate Student, University of South Florida
> Dr. Lisa Gunaydin, Assistant Professor, University of California San Francisco
> Dr. Lauren Hallion, Assistant Professor, University of Pittsburgh
> Dr. Erin Kaufman, Assistant Professor, University of Western Ontario
> Dr. Stephen Lewis, Associate Professor, University of Guelph
> Dese’Rae L. Stage, Graduate Student, Temple University
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