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And, just because one person said it, many other coaches are probably thinking it.

He brings up some good points that teams will now have to look at different strategies, whether they use old or new equipment.   I was unaware of these nuances and appreciate the listserv to bring these topics to light.  Personally, if an NXT and EV3 tie, the win should go to the NXT.

Scott Greiling
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From: First Lego League in Virginia and DC [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Wendy Sherbert
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Actually, I liked it!

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>>> "Emler, Paul" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> 9/17/2013 3:15 PM >>>
Because it affects everyone involved. Sorry, I wanted input as to why this decision was made. I won’t post again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From: First Lego League in Virginia and DC [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Angela Roth
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 2:57 PM
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Why are you sending this out to the entire VAFLL???????????????????

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From: First Lego League in Virginia and DC [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Emler, Paul
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 2:38 PM
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I do understand that I can spend even more money that my team doesn’t have to be more competitive. We can also plug/ unplug a motor but that goes back to my time disadvantage. I will stop ranting. I love FLL and what my kids get out of it. This is my 6 year competing and the only time I have found fault with what is being done.

From: First Lego League in Virginia and DC [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Anant Narayanan
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One way to recover (some of the) time disadvantage would be to add the fourth motor to the NXT-brick based frame, and plug it in when needed, after unplugging another motor.  Also, one can get a new EV3 brick for $160.

Nari Narayanan

On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Bdh612-ess <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
But that is the way USFirst sees it. As I understand it

Brian

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On Sep 16, 2013, at 4:00 PM, "Emler, Paul" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
That is not entirely true. When the RCX was replaced by the NXT, there was a score bonus given to teams using the RCX brick. I have new team members every year so that experience factor doesn't fit as well.

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Subject: [VADCFLL-L] 4 motors
Date: Mon, Sep 16, 2013 3:43 pm

The same was true when the RCX was replaced by the NXT. The EV-3 actually has several advantages (larger memory, faster processor, new sensors like the gyro sensor), the ball wheel, the smaller motor, new programming blocks like the adv math block, etc) in addition to the forth motor ability, but the experience of FFL veterans is that experience, knowledge, and discipline so trump the technical advantages that there is no real advantage.


On Sep 16, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Emler, Paul wrote:

I am confused on the 4 motors. The EV3 allows 4 motors to be plugged into it at one time. The NXT only allows 3 at a time. I have seen adapters to allow 4 but those are not allowed. How is this not an advantage? If my team uses an NXT and has to only use 3 motors or transfer a motor on and off in order to have 4, they are automatically at a time disadvantage to a team using an EV3 with 4 motors already attached. Just wondering on how the thought process went to determine that there isn’t an advantage to using the EV3 over the NXT.


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