Very interesting

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.quantamagazine.org_the-2Dbrain-2Drotates-2Dmemories-2Dto-2Dsave-2Dthem-2Dfrom-2Dnew-2Dsensations-2D20210415_&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=h74pX3wxpiU4hrmA-VKMT8vTdl5ucBFHgUQGH6mr2cA&s=1MT6Hln-f4Lndf_UaJ47JDgSWJygGTnxqVEAu9XR4KU&e= 



On Thu, Apr 15, 2021, 12:24 PM Waldemar Schmidt <[log in to unmask]>
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> Eric:
>
> I have been following the discussion between yourself and Gregg.
> Indeed, it is fascinating to contrast the two views.
> Your explanation in terms of physics, including theoretical physics, is
> interesting.
>
> I wonder if you would add a description of how your Mosaic Model
> influences our perceptions of The Human Condition.
> By that I mean: what makes us, constitutes us, and influences our
> thoughts, feeling, and behaviors as *Homo sapiens sapiens*.
>
> Granted, that requires delving into the philosophical and, in particular,
> the theoretical and philosophical human psychology.
>
> I am interested in comparing your perceptions on these matters with those
> of Gregg.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Waldemar
>
> *Waldemar A Schmidt, PhD, MD*
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> On Apr 14, 2021, at 11:27 PM, easalien <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Sorry Gregg,
>
> After looking through these materials, I remain thoroughly unconvinced.
> Whatever skepticism I had beforehand may be more pronounced. There seems to
> be an impasse in our methodologies: You treat mind as a concept, while I
> treat it as real.
>
> Referencing E.F. Schumacher, your variables represent ontological
> discontinuities. While I agree that distinctions exist between domains such
> as biology, chemistry, history, etc., your solution is to posit
> philosophical stopgaps. These joint points represent actual events, and
> your tendency to address them in purely philosophical terms is not
> explanatory. The hierarchical model is better represented diagrammatically
> in Cahoone’s Order of Nature, if consciousness functions as inner
> perception.
>
> Cahoone’s Model:
>
> <image_123986672.JPG>
>
> Mosaic Model:
>
> <IMG_0344.jpg>
>
> It appears the model I’ve discovered shares greater fidelity with
> Cahoone’s than with your own. However, the true benefit of Mosaic are its
> testable predictions:
>
> Hard Problem: The mind-body separation acts as an event horizon predicated
> on Spontaneous Symmetry Breaking (Memory). Differences in subjective
> experience arise as individual memories are compared to one another, i.e.,
> Relativity of Experience. By treating the Observer as central, the
> observable radius of the universe should correspond to the radius of
> non-rotating spherical black hole as observed in Schwarzschild-Hubble
> Equivalence.
>
> Matter-Antimatter Distribution (Baryogenesis): If the cosmic horizon is
> analogous to an event horizon, edge quantum fluctuations should assume the
> form of Hawking Radiation, with leftover matter separating from its
> antimatter counterpart due to Spontaneous Symmetry Breaking. It explains
> the perfect black body spectrum of the CMB.
>
> Origin of Life (Homochirality): As a mechanism for consciousness,
> Spontaneous Symmetry Breaking consistently generates novelty in broad
> categories, e.g., Big Bang. In Biology, monomers in the form of amino acids
> and nucleotides form the basic building blocks of life. However, nature
> exhibits a broken symmetry favoring left-handed amino acids and
> right-handed ribonucleic sugars. The Miller-Urey experiments generated the
> organic monomers necessary for life, but their racemic distribution did not
> explain how Homochirality developed. Research now indicates that
> Spontaneous Symmetry Breaking is possible through superheating “shock”
> processes, such as meteor impacts.
>
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.researchgate.net_publication_225502642-5FChirality-5Fand-5Fthe-5FOrigin-5Fof-5FHomochirality&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=h74pX3wxpiU4hrmA-VKMT8vTdl5ucBFHgUQGH6mr2cA&s=yHjf9QuoS0UV8nHMiZjAGcwDnq-EJ8YIb1U_nhH4Te4&e= 
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.researchgate.net_publication_225502642-5FChirality-5Fand-5Fthe-5FOrigin-5Fof-5FHomochirality&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=fmAsjGE4w_Hp-he_ONUwVKVPwOpeiZwXvNZ2y5K6asc&s=-5ug-XXPwGHQENW37uMNph5iYdJc7obdHY0db8PQW68&e=>
>
> Quantum Gravity: QM and GR cannot be mathematically reconciled due to
> singularity, representing Absolute Potential (Graviton). However, by
> treating Gravity as a preserved symmetry, we no longer have to reconcile
> them. Manifests as broken symmetries in QM.
>
> Dark Matter: As a corollary of a requisite condition in Penrose’s
> Singularity Theorem—local interactions be non-negative—nonlocal
> interactions can be negative (gravitational). Potential as source of
> “extra” gravity.
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.nature.com_articles_ncomms7665&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=h74pX3wxpiU4hrmA-VKMT8vTdl5ucBFHgUQGH6mr2cA&s=zrYw9E_nkAtNtKH4OH5dXWYh0Yay7TO2q5LaIudICnQ&e= 
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.nature.com_articles_ncomms7665&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=fmAsjGE4w_Hp-he_ONUwVKVPwOpeiZwXvNZ2y5K6asc&s=mcgGlHKqlcz5No-zSObZNF7660zGA0M4DvaNl8095-Q&e=>
>
> Dark Energy: Unlike ordinary matter, Potential doesn’t dilute as volume
> increases. The Casimir Effect demonstrates the outward pressure of
> collapsing Potential in the vacuum, as weakness of Dark Energy correlates
> to weakness of Gravity (Hierarchy Problems). Manifests as Cosmological
> Constant.
>
> Strong CP Problem: In experiments, Charge-Parity Symmetry is maintained in
> Strong Force interactions even though they should break.  According to the
> Mosaic, the Strong Force exhibits the greatest symmetry with the exception
> of Gravity. Conversely, the Weak Force manifests asymmetrically, a
> discovery that earned Tsung-Dao Lee and Chen-Ning Yang—with assistance from
> Chien-Shiung Wu—the 1957 Nobel Prize.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 3:49 AM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Eric,
>>
>>
>>
>>   You say you don’t mean to come across as contrarian and yet you
>> consistently do. You might reflect some on that.
>>
>>
>>
>>   To address your two questions, first I suggest you look through the
>> attached book, *A Guide for the Perplexed
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_A-5FGuide-5Ffor-5Fthe-5FPerplexed&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=fmAsjGE4w_Hp-he_ONUwVKVPwOpeiZwXvNZ2y5K6asc&s=vzH9NDc8AU3cC53NDuHfUKIWoK6oKxwHEsTvhF0AKZc&e=>*.
>> It is designed to be an easy read. Check out pages 15-27 and you will see
>> one source for the A + B + C + D analysis.
>>
>> Here is the particularly relevant portion:
>>
>> <image011.png>
>>
>> It also can be connected to Wilber’s Great Nest of Being, as he
>> elaborated in The Marriage of Sense and Soul. And other places. Like
>> Aristotle’s scales of nature
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Great-5Fchain-5Fof-5Fbeing&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=fmAsjGE4w_Hp-he_ONUwVKVPwOpeiZwXvNZ2y5K6asc&s=ilRkm_JD05grmbyNxtenmjcXulShm5lc-M9_7s-Kjlg&e=>.
>> If you want a more up-to-date analysis of these scales/level/layers/orders,
>> see Cahoone’s The Orders of Nature
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.amazon.com_Orders-2DNature-2DLawrence-2DCahoone_dp_1438444168&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=fmAsjGE4w_Hp-he_ONUwVKVPwOpeiZwXvNZ2y5K6asc&s=EVOoZurSxNPwbsJZpMpbcvsg8yVLnTtcNkEeMNVqUdY&e=>
>> (I have the pdf I can share). The argument that Matter, Life, Mind, and
>> Culture emerge out of an implicate order of “pure” Energy-Information which
>> represent distinguishable variable clusters and this is mapped by
>> scientific knowledge is central to the entire UTOK project. See, e.g., the
>> original ToK Manifesto I wrote more than 20 years ago
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__medium.com_unified-2Dtheory-2Dof-2Dknowledge_the-2Dtree-2Dof-2Dknowledge-2Dsystem-2Dmanifesto-2Ddc29b7edab4b&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=fmAsjGE4w_Hp-he_ONUwVKVPwOpeiZwXvNZ2y5K6asc&s=oZ7E5ONKsCgVd3RoXhGGBOmyjV4m_eC0cKppCcXsOb8&e=>.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> As for my argument about mind and the need for an up-to-date descriptive
>> metaphysics that maps it into the five domains depicted by the Map of Mind,
>> I strongly recommend you watch my two educational videos on the *Problem
>> of Psychology and Its Solution*.
>>
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__drive.google.com_file_d_1Jn1l5-2D-2Dy9MrkphbRLirXgAbYCNwj5uEI_view-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=h74pX3wxpiU4hrmA-VKMT8vTdl5ucBFHgUQGH6mr2cA&s=LGE_orFkMrL-cd6aRlUHFk2uzCYGM9HapVZKvRs0wxU&e= 
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__drive.google.com_file_d_1Jn1l5-2D-2Dy9MrkphbRLirXgAbYCNwj5uEI_view-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=fmAsjGE4w_Hp-he_ONUwVKVPwOpeiZwXvNZ2y5K6asc&s=BEGKmSWuhhWTosWHRTvAAI-2RDKQcXamhLZ2_4o0-0E&e=>
>> (Part I)
>>
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__drive.google.com_file_d_1NPbgaR1rsnAxWdkTV4idNTv0qtx6ty7H_view-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=h74pX3wxpiU4hrmA-VKMT8vTdl5ucBFHgUQGH6mr2cA&s=ILmoH9qTvYbUPe-snGNY1pQtVI6butkxkGlIK6nDtIk&e= 
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__drive.google.com_file_d_1NPbgaR1rsnAxWdkTV4idNTv0qtx6ty7H_view-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=fmAsjGE4w_Hp-he_ONUwVKVPwOpeiZwXvNZ2y5K6asc&s=pRgbx7MtO5sfJvtClTwC2E6oz7Mqf2_mkspgfERefD4&e=>
>> (Part II)
>>
>>
>>
>> I also recommend you watch the series I did with John Vervaeke on Untangling
>> the World Knot of Consciousness
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_theory-2Dknowledge_202012_untangling-2Dthe-2Dworld-2Dknot-2Dconsciousness&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=fmAsjGE4w_Hp-he_ONUwVKVPwOpeiZwXvNZ2y5K6asc&s=7WLsXmDpS5dF6IAbAJSr4tIE2vQEGBE9WI5ajjcP77o&e=>.
>> The last four episodes spell out precisely this argument, building off
>> of John’s 4P/3R metatheory of cognition
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_theory-2Dknowledge_202101_john-2Dvervaeke-2Ds-2Dbrilliant-2D4p3r-2Dmetatheory-2Dcognition&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=fmAsjGE4w_Hp-he_ONUwVKVPwOpeiZwXvNZ2y5K6asc&s=HwiO_AIO-jPeygxa5EQJe9runbxov1hjjTbxS53wTu0&e=>.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I know it will take some time, but if you really want your presence on
>> the list to have a different feel to it, I encourage you to make the effort.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Gregg
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* tree of knowledge system discussion <
>> [log in to unmask]> *On Behalf Of *easalien
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 12, 2021 8:20 PM
>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>> *Subject:* Re: TOK: Clip from my talk with John
>>
>>
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>> Hey Gregg,
>>
>>
>>
>> Can you explain what Z + A + B + C + D + X actually means? Do these
>> variables correspond to reality?
>>
>>
>>
>> I don’t ask these questions to be contrarian. It just seems your making
>> enormous assumptions based on scant evidence. For example, how do you
>> justify splitting the mind into 3 (or 5) separate parts?
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 7:18 AM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Many thanks, friend. I am glad you like it. I found your description
>> enriching.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am definitely keen on the idea that I fell into the problem of
>> psychology precisely because there was a massive hole in our naturalistic
>> thinking, which can be specified by the Enlightenment Gap. It is obvious
>> that the Enlightenment failed to give us a coherent naturalistic scientific
>> philosophy that was aligned with human subjectivity and purpose (i.e., the
>> human self, soul, spirit). That was because they had the wrong ontological
>> picture. The right ontological picture is pretty clear to me these days.
>> Let me lay it out for you. I know, Chance, you know much of this already.
>> But what follows is a slightly new, simplified version that you might find
>> worth reading through.
>>
>>
>>
>> First, there is an “Energy-Information Implicate Order” that Matter
>> emerges out of. It does not have the same kind of space-time causal
>> properties as macroscopic matter. Let’s call this “Z”. At the Big
>> Beginning/Big Bang, we see that Energy-Information Singularity transforms
>> and differentiates and this is the beginning of the classic material world.
>> Here
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3Dqq3YDfui-2DtI&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=gxXSO6A79Z_BVV4glb5ybXMg022tHHohr_wqIzvZdFI&s=wYY_m39VX2-T2zJzD7ACOBnlAvRUPpRfG6XJfkf5ai8&e=>
>> is a nice easy to follow 15 minute video on the first three minutes. This
>> change reaction gives rise to the first dimension of complexification on
>> the ToK, represented as “Matter”.
>>
>>
>>
>> We can call Matter “dimension A”. The macroscopic “explicate order”
>> arises out of the Energy-Information implicate order. How this happens can
>> be framed as the “reality-measurement-emergent” questions/problems that
>> makes interpreting quantum mechanics so difficult. The intersection of the
>> Energy-Information and the Matter dimension is nevertheless clearly framed
>> by quantum mechanics and general relativity. The foundation is quantum
>> relativistic field theory, which shows that we can think of material
>> particles and forces as emerging out of fluctuations in the
>> Energy-Information field. The cohering of particles and forces give rise to
>> macroscopic objects with entangled histories. This is the atomic universe
>> and above at the macroscopic scale. The emergent phenomena include things
>> like atoms and chemical molecules, and stars and galaxies and, of course,
>> space and time as we experience them (in contrast to their “shape” at the
>> implicate order). So now we have *Z* + A. The physical sciences map *Z*
>> + *A*.
>>
>>
>>
>> We then get Life. Life is a fundamentally different kind of emergence
>> because it involves the “epistemic” process of knowing. By knowing I mean
>> that cells process information and communicate in networks to generate a
>> novel complex adaptive plane. The biological forms and processes represent
>> a different kind of causal process. That is why there is a shape-break on
>> the ToK. The new Life cone is the new living epistemic process involves the
>> way living things “know” about the external reality. We can call Life
>> “dimension B”. So now we have *Z* + A + *B*, with B mapped by biological
>> sciences
>>
>>
>>
>> We then, of course, have Mind, which we can call “dimension C”. Once
>> again, we have a fundamentally different kind of “epistemic” process. This
>> time, via animal sensory-movement relations that give rise to the animal
>> behavioral dimension of activity, which the ToK innovatively characterizes
>> as “Mind”. Way too much conceptual grammar is devoted to “the mind” and way
>> to little is devoted to seeing Mind in nature. As someone who is deeply
>> knowledgeable about ethology, I know you get this. But I am just spelling
>> it out. Of course, this evolutionary model allows us to clearly frame
>> neurocognition into subjective conscious experience in animals. Behavioral
>> Investment Theory gives the metatheory. The Map of Mind1,2,3 gives the
>> metaphysics, framing Mind1 as neurocognition and Mind2 as subjective
>> conscious experience. Now we have* Z* + A +* B* + *C*. C should have
>> been mapped by the basic psychological sciences, but the problem of
>> psychology emerged because the Enlightenment gave us the wrong grammar to
>> talk about “the mind”.
>>
>>
>>
>> Finally, we get the talking mind of human persons, Mind3 and the Culture
>> that Mind3 produces. The Culture-Person plane is “dimension D”. The network
>> of evolving systems of justification that function to coordinate people in
>> socio-ecological arrangements through time. It is the clear way the ToK
>> carves nature at the * B* to *C* and then *C* to *D* “joint points” that
>> it affords us a new and proper way to think about the animal-mind,
>> culture-person relationship. So now we have *Z* + *A* + *B* + * C* + *D*.
>>
>>
>>
>> Then we get the evolution of analytic justification into transcendent
>> knowing. This is the process of: (1) knowing about knowledge; (2)knowing
>> about reality and (3) knowing about the knower. Knowing about knowledge in
>> the West starts with the Greek and the Pythagoreans into Socrates into
>> Plato and Aristotle. They give us the birth of philosophical reflections
>> that attempt to climb out of the socially constructed “cave” and see the
>> forms of the world as they are. Then we get knowing about reality via
>> modern empirical natural science, which gives us the correspondent approach
>> grounded in math and method.
>>
>>
>>
>> Then we get knowing about the knower via UTOK. Let’s call this *X*.
>>
>>
>>
>> So now we have *Z* + *A* + *B* + * C* + *D* + *X*.
>>
>>
>>
>> We can depict this on the scale of time by complexification as follows:
>>
>>
>>
>> <image001.png><image002.png><image003.png><image004.png><image005.png>
>> <image006.png><image007.png><image008.png><image005.png><image009.png>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Z* = Energy-Information Implicate Order
>>
>> *A* = Material-Object Explicate Order of Complexity
>>
>> *B* = Living-Organism Order of Complexification
>>
>> *C *= Mental-Animal Order of Complexification
>>
>> *D* = Cultural-Person Order of Complexification
>>
>> *X* = Metaphysical Scientific Knower that Observes/Describes/Explains
>> Behavior Change
>>
>>
>>
>> Contextualized in the Tree and the Garden, the iQuad formulation is about
>> developing a logos approach to nonduality, such that it represents the case
>> where observer equals observed. Thus, it is the special case where
>>
>> the onto-epistemology of ontic-epistemic relations of observer/observed
>> nonduality can be represented as *X* = * Z* + *A* + * B* + *C* + *D. *
>>
>>
>>
>> This could be called “The Nondual Singularity Theory of Observer (Psyche)
>> = Observed (Behavior)” or something like that…
>>
>> Big love, brother.
>> Gregg
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> *From:* tree of knowledge system discussion <
>> [log in to unmask]> *On Behalf Of *Chance McDermott
>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 10, 2021 2:33 PM
>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>> *Subject:* Re: TOK: Clip from my talk with John
>>
>>
>>
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>> Gregg,
>>
>>
>>
>> I resonate with the mission statement:  *"We are seeking a coherent,
>> naturalistic ontology that can revitalize the human soul and spirit in the
>> 21st century"*
>>
>>
>>
>> It appears to me to be dense, precise, and uplifting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>>
>> -Chance
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 10:04 AM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi TOK List,
>>
>>
>>
>>   I am working with Christian Gross to set up the “UTOKing with Gregg
>> Podcast”. We will be formally announcing it Monday, and the first episode
>> will be released on Thursday. Apropos of Voices with Vervaeke (I was John’s
>> first guest), John is the first guest. Given the discussions on the list, I
>> thought I would share the two minute clip as a preview (thanks to Christian
>> for finding and selecting this clip).
>>
>>
>>
>> Here it is:
>>
>>
>>
>> * UTOKing with John Vervaeke - Clip.mp4
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__drive.google.com_file_d_1kmAvCL4gVWCF75ooXrdMHSl4awuj2Zrw_view-3Fusp-3Ddrive-5Fweb&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=wjF8cZoiFchamTuxBdDEmw&m=AYFX0kB-9msai7Cux39UQ5sMlWA0a5jcO5wReMl34TA&s=AOMThfpnVBKU99d0Djl5uQKCCN80cV3jK1AaDX-LVgs&e=>*
>>
>>
>>
>> And this is the quote we are speaking about, which frames the clip and
>> much of the discussion:
>>
>>
>>
>> <image010.png>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Gregg
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