Cool, thanks!
On Fri, Apr 30, 2021, 1:11 PM michael kazanjian <[log in to unmask]>
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> Jamie:
>
> My book, Unified Philosophy: Interdisciplinary Metaphysics, Ethics, and
> Liberal Artsk 3rd edition, is not specifically on cultural evolution.
> However, the second part of the first and remaining chapters deals with
> evolution (change) alone, stabily oriented or directed evolution, dualism,
> and stability alone.
>
> I go into Aristotle, Hegel, Teilhard, Whitehead, evaluation/process
> thought, etc.
>
> Michael
>
> On Friday, April 30, 2021, 3:03:15 PM CDT, Jamie D <[log in to unmask]>
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> Thanks, I'm seel8ng to collect all major books on cultural evolution, so
> any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 1:25 PM James Tyler Carpenter <
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> you may want to check out pre-verbal research as well:
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.amazon.com_Landscape-2DMind-2DEvolution-2DArchaeology-2DThought-2Debook_dp_B005VSIYJA_ref-3Dmp-5Fs-5Fa-5F1-5F2-3Fdchild-3D1-26keywords-3DJohn-2BF.-2BHoffecker-2BLandscape-2Bof-2Bthe-2Bmind-26qid-3D1619727827-26sr-3D8-2D2&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=EugzTFhUb4GKH8mlHd7Eg1BI7Clr3gDdCt_9KqS9CiE&s=fHn3G0Wkp285XrcAADDck1tSPca53cZJ8F2Th_KJ678&e=
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.amazon.com_Landscape-2DMind-2DEvolution-2DArchaeology-2DThought-2Debook_dp_B005VSIYJA_ref-3Dmp-5Fs-5Fa-5F1-5F2-3Fdchild-3D1-26keywords-3DJohn-2BF.-2BHoffecker-2BLandscape-2Bof-2Bthe-2Bmind-26qid-3D1619727827-26sr-3D8-2D2&d=DwMFAg&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=dEUCV2SBV14YMf5OAkcIU2GtdueIGZ5pH_wkxab0BcI&s=tCdBf5JMo6O2pmY6g-XsB2jEukB6spQf1tWRo-M7JF8&e=>
>
>
> James Tyler Carpenter, PhD, FAACP
> www.metispsych.com
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> *Sent:* Thursday, April 29, 2021 4:15:03 PM
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> *Subject:* Neanderthals, and evolution of language
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> I'd like to share some observations that I think should be more salient to
> those working to put together the big picture TOK.
>
> *Short version:*
> 1. Upright posture
> 2. tool use
> 3.... then *with* language, Interdependence, intersubjectivity, we get
> the explosion of cumulative culture.
> 4, Around 100,000 years ago, via mutation of the voice box, modern humans
> expand speech, thus thought, thus further accelerate cumulative culture,
> giving us the edge to wipe out Neanderthals and other competition.
> 5. The capacity for complex communication allows for enough of a stable
> equilibrium within our own species that cooperation just barely out
> competes the incentives of ego domination.
>
> *Long version: *
>
> Standing upright preceded both tool use and language, evident by
> Australopithecus.
>
> Tool use preceded language, evident in some species today.
>
> The sole feature that makes humans unique, giving us our edge, is not
> hands, tools, language, nor sheer intelligence,(which I argue isn't even a
> real thing) but *cumulative cultural evolution - the integrated,
> innovative crowd.*
>
> As Joseph Heinrich points out, ants are the only other creature with
> similar amounts of biomass on the planet, and for similar reasons, but they
> don't evolve culturally.
>
> Other species have *some* culture, but not cultural *evolution*. Their
> culture has no capacity to evolve and accumulate complex arrangements of
> concepts that can integrate and find new uses.
>
> I'm very curious to really understand from a first principles, systemic
> view, how the 4th joint point emerged, because such a thorough
> understanding would be applicable to almost anything we appreciate.
>
> Now, about Neanderthals:
>
> I just saw this video at random,
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_c9KnOjsc0g4&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=EugzTFhUb4GKH8mlHd7Eg1BI7Clr3gDdCt_9KqS9CiE&s=B3nt9CaDAS3GRfxbwj6a71KH_CLCzWKz7pMXU9OLuXM&e=
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>
> ...which describes how modern humans, unlike any other mammal, have a
> voice box that lowers into the throat as we grow past infancy.
>
> Neanderthals, modern apes, and human babies all have a flat base of the
> skull, and can breath and swallow nearly at the same time, but as humans
> grow past their first year, our airway and foodway get crossed as our
> larynx lowers into the throat.
>
> It makes sense that it would have taken quite a while for such a dangerous
> adaptation to secure itself, but once it did, our capacity for cultural
> evolution exploded.
>
> Neanderthals certainly had some language and cultural evolution, as they
> were human, and so even did Australopithecus... But full blown linguistic
> sophistication apparently didn't emerge until modern humans, 100,000 years
> ago, which allowed us to essentially wipe out all the competition, and then
> find an evolutionary equilibrium with groups of our own species that could
> also speak (and thus think and reason) with equal sophistication.
>
> These observations pave the way for far greater resolution of the big
> picture:
>
> 1. upright apes could face each other, and while managing heat more
> effectively and long distance cooperative running and hunting, created the
> space *and* demand for greater intersubjectivity. We looked each other in
> the face with our torso and hands exposed. Our eyes grew white sclera to
> show others where we looked.
> (Genes for cooperation vs sociopathy have been in a race ever since, with
> modern culture creating space for both.)
> Imagine upright chimpanzees barking at each other, carrying stone blades,
> working together to bring down a wounded buffalo, mostly reading each
> other's minds as they grew up together, using vocalization for long-distant
> and emotional communication. Also the hands being free and arms stretched
> out before the visual field is a ripe situation to discover the utility of
> representations.
>
> 2. As our discovery of representational utility expands, tool use expands,
> and *demand* for culture begins to accumulate, altering the fitness
> landscape that acts upon our genome. As culture gets a hold of increasing
> utility, it becomes an invisible, Godlike force that grooms and gardens our
> genes, selecting for genes favorable to cultural evolution, like Neoteny,
> communication, and a deeper, more abstract "user interface" (a throwback to
> Donald Hoffman)...which sort of IS culture - a virtual part of our genetic
> fitness landscape, beginning a long journey of blurring the lines between
> subjectivity and objectivity, changing us inside and outside. This
> generates a number of trends that have remained constant:
> 1. Neoteny
> 2. White sclera, empathy, mind reading
> 3. Demands of innovation
> 4. widening cultural complexity and integration, escalator of reason,
> expanding circle of compassion, etc...
> 5. Sharing, Commodification,
> 6. Interdependence, such that individual fitness depends almost
> entirely on contributing to the group.
> 7. *Stratification of Status Hierarchies, *such that we become more
> sensitive to fitting in, fearful of what others might think, ....not to
> mention denial and contempt of this very quality. To this day I argue we've
> not reconciled ourselves to our own nature in this regard.
>
> 4. Homiids radiate throughout the world, but modern humans spring up with
> greater capacity for cumulative culture and wipe out all competition,
> finding stability within our own species.
>
> Lastly,
> I'm interested in the future of groups, tribalism and such, as these are
> so strongly built in that we often create distinct groups just for the
> sport of competition, which does drive evolution via sport.
>
> Future subcultures that expand their capacity to cooperate and innovate
> *together* will almost certainly make groups that don't face a threat of
> becoming obsolete in the future.
> However, the degree we are integrating and connecting should pull everyone
> together, utilizing our extreme inclination to conform.
>
> It seems ego is the primary impetus to live and grow, so how could a world
> ever be without ego?
>
> Jamie
>
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