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If you are using the older nxt, the Mindtroopers would be glad to loan you
our battery pack for the tournament

Email me separately for logistics.

Ash
On Nov 9, 2013 8:13 AM, "Jaime Clemmer" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> We are a week away and our battery died. We don't have funds to replace
> and we are missing the back to hold the aa batteries in. Is it ok to tape
> them in on the back or will that be considered tampering or something? Not
> the best solution but not sure what other options I have.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 9, 2013, at 12:03 AM, "VADCFLL-L automatic digest system" <
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> >
> > There are 4 messages totalling 281 lines in this issue.
> >
> > Topics of the day:
> >
> >  1. Robot Game & Core Values questions (2)
> >  2. Robot leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds... (2)
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> > Date:    Fri, 8 Nov 2013 19:38:58 -0500
> > From:    Chris Bolster <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Robot Game & Core Values questions
> >
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > I have a follow up question regarding point 3.  Is there a place in the
> > rules we can refer to that allows for the truck reload request?
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Chris
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> > Date:    Fri, 8 Nov 2013 21:40:15 -0500
> > From:    VA/DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Robot Game & Core Values questions
> >
> > --e89a8ffbad693c28e704eab56bed
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> >
> > Rule 19, Quality Control, allows the team to ask the referee to check the
> > setup and confirm that mission models are in the proper place and locked
> > down (when appropriate).
> >
> > -- During your pre-match setup time only, you may ask the ref to
> > double-check that a particular setup is correct/within spec, but you may
> > not request any custom setup, in or out of the specified setup range.
> >
> > All teams are encouraged to inspect the field when they arrive at the
> > table, and to point out anything that looks funny to the referee.
> >
> > I don't recommend that teams ask the referees to check every model each
> > time they come to the table.  That presumes that the referees aren't
> doing
> > their job maintaining the table, and it gets tedious, and it uses up all
> > the team's setup time (or more!)  But definitely ask the referee to
> > double-check the models that you know your robot has trouble with.  (And
> > the first team of the day in the Practice round might want to be extra
> > vigilant!)
> >
> > If the water bottle is close to the end of the truck, it's okay to say,
> "I
> > know that we cannot request a custom setup, but we are concerned that the
> > water bottle might roll out of the truck.  Would you check that all items
> > are safely within the truck, and that the sides are on tightly?"  Most
> > referees will pick up the truck to look at it and set it down again,
> likely
> > with items safely contained in the bed of the truck.  (The Variability
> > rule, Rule 42, may still come into play with any match setup, of course.)
> >
> > Steve Scherr
> > VA/DC FLL Referee Advisor
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Chris Bolster <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Steve,
> >>
> >> I have a follow up question regarding point 3.  Is there a place in the
> >> rules we can refer to that allows for the truck reload request?
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >>
> >> Chris
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> > --e89a8ffbad693c28e704eab56bed
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> >
> > <div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Rule 19, Quality Control, allows the
> team t=
> > o ask the referee to check the setup and confirm that mission models are
> in=
> > the proper place and locked down (when appropriate).<br><br>-- During
> your=
> > pre-match setup time only, you may ask the ref to double-check that a
> part=
> > icular setup is correct/within spec, but you may not request any custom
> set=
> > up, in or out of the specified setup range.<br>
> > <br></div>All teams are encouraged to inspect the field when they arrive
> at=
> > the table, and to point out anything that looks funny to the
> referee.<br><=
> > br></div>I don't recommend that teams ask the referees to check every m=
> > odel each time they come to the table.=A0 That presumes that the
> referees a=
> > ren't doing their job maintaining the table, and it gets tedious, and i=
> > t uses up all the team's setup time (or more!)=A0 But definitely ask th=
> > e referee to double-check the models that you know your robot has
> trouble w=
> > ith.=A0 (And the first team of the day in the Practice round might want
> to =
> > be extra vigilant!)<br>
> > <br></div>If the water bottle is close to the end of the truck, it's ok=
> > ay to say, "I know that we cannot request a custom setup, but we are c=
> > oncerned that the water bottle might roll out of the truck.=A0 Would you
> ch=
> > eck that all items are safely within the truck, and that the sides are
> on t=
> > ightly?"=A0 Most referees will pick up the truck to look at it and set=
> > it down again, likely with items safely contained in the bed of the
> truck.=
> > =A0 (The Variability rule, Rule 42, may still come into play with any
> match=
> > setup, of course.)<br>
> > <br>Steve Scherr<br>VA/DC FLL Referee
> Advisor<br><div><div><div><br><br><br=
> >> </div></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div
> class=3D"g=
> > mail_quote">On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Chris Bolster <span
> dir=3D"ltr"=
> >> <<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">christop_b@y
> =
> > ahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
> > <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0
> .8ex;border-left:1p=
> > x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Steve,<br>
> > <br>
> > I have a follow up question regarding point 3. =A0Is there a place in
> the<b=
> > r>
> > rules we can refer to that allows for the truck reload request?<br>
> > <br>
> > Best Regards,<br>
> > <br>
> > Chris<br>
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date:    Fri, 8 Nov 2013 23:01:56 -0500
> > From:    Ramesh Subbanna <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Robot leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds...
> >
> > --047d7b5d5c14544f7804eab68f2f
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> > Possibly last Question,
> >
> > If the robot leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds and completes a
> > mission at about 2 minutes and 40 seconds ( I mean it completes a mission
> > after the time is up ), is the score valid ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -RAMESH
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> > --047d7b5d5c14544f7804eab68f2f
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> > <div dir="ltr">Possibly last Question,<div><br></div><div>If the robot
> leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds and completes a mission at
> about 2 minutes and 40 seconds ( I mean it completes a mission after the
> time is up ), is the score valid ?</div>
> > <div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>-RAMESH</div></div>
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> > --047d7b5d5c14544f7804eab68f2f--
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date:    Fri, 8 Nov 2013 23:18:45 -0500
> > From:    VA/DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Robot leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds...
> >
> > --bcaec520efab7f7ccd04eab6cbd1
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> >
> > No.  There are no points for anything that occurs after the 2:30 mark.
> >
> > Rule 39, Match-End Scoring
> >
> >   - Unless a specific method for producing a scoring condition is
> >   required, your score comes from the conditions at the exact time the
> match
> >   ends only.
> >   - Points are not given nor taken away for results produced after the
> >   match end signal ends.
> >
> >
> > The referee will probably stop the robot before it can make any changes
> to
> > the field after 2 minutes, 30 seconds, anyway.
> >
> > Steve Scherr
> > VA/DC FLL Referee Advisor
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Ramesh Subbanna
> > <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
> >
> >> Possibly last Question,
> >>
> >> If the robot leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds and completes a
> >> mission at about 2 minutes and 40 seconds ( I mean it completes a
> mission
> >> after the time is up ), is the score valid ?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> -RAMESH
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> > --bcaec520efab7f7ccd04eab6cbd1
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> > <div dir=3D"ltr">No. =A0There are no points for anything that occurs
> after =
> > the 2:30 mark. =A0<div><br></div><div>Rule 39, Match-End
> Scoring</div><div>
> >    =09
> > =09
> > =09
> >        <div class=3D"" title=3D"Page 25">
> >            <div class=3D"">
> >                <div class=3D"">
> >                    <ul>
> >                        <li>
> >                            Unless a specific method for producing a
> scoring condition is requir=
> > ed, your score comes from the conditions at the exact time the match
> ends o=
> > nly.</li><li>Points are not given nor taken away for results produced
> after=
> > the match end signal ends.<br>
> >
> >                        </li>
> >                    </ul><div><br></div><div>The referee will probably
> stop the robot befo=
> > re it can make any changes to the field after 2 minutes, 30 seconds,
> anyway=
> > .<br></div><div><br></div><div>Steve Scherr</div><div>VA/DC FLL Referee
> Adv=
> > isor</div>
> > <div><br></div>
> >                </div>
> >            </div>
> >        </div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div
> class=3D"gmail_quote"=
> >> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Ramesh Subbanna <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a =
> > href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"
> target=3D"_blank">ramesh.subbanna=
> > @gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
> > <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px
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> >
> left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
> > adding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Possibly last
> Question,<div><br></div><di=
> > v>
> > If the robot leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds and completes a
> mi=
> > ssion at about 2 minutes and 40 seconds ( I mean it completes a mission
> aft=
> > er the time is up ), is the score valid ?</div>
> > <div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>-RAMESH</div></div>
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