yup. and after sending this email.. I saw how more "legal ways" of doing it: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DUsgnG0o7Ons&d=BQIFAw&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=J5fb0ELkRoh7TzAGYz99sSMvB-c7i4AC0HDT2OVPrww&m=JkD8H3l-Hia2JlX1wzoKZ9mg1rIbWn4DTDhru9NGVfI&s=bhZNr3nOpNK-gtMU-DVa4N8-Qy6qZF13jQMCl5Q1zA4&e= I'll have the kids re-read that set of rules. Thanks Tweeks ________________________________ From: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Lord Of The Bricks <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2015 10:54 AM To: Thomas (Tweeks) Weeks Cc: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Collecting Demolition Bars The one thing I noticed in this video is that it stresses that you must push the red lever to demo the building. The rules state: "Basic Mission Description: Demolish the Building and decide what to do with the materials. ?? Specific physical requirement, visible at the end of the match: * Value: 85 None of the Building's twelve beams is left standing in Setup position. There is no specific mention of the red lever, so, it is not a requirement. Also, the rules state: R12 - Launching - A proper Launch (or re-Launch) goes like this: ?? Ready Situation * Your Robot and everything related to its next Autonomous period are arranged as desired and all completely contained within and under the limits of BASE. * The Ref can see that nothing in Base is moving, and that you're not touching anything. ?? Activation Method Options * ACTIVE: Reach with one hand and touch a button or signal a sensor to prompt a program. * PASSIVE: Do nothing and allow a running program to resume. SPECIAL CASE: Match Start - In this case, the exact time to Launch is the beginning of the last word/sound in the countdown, such as "Ready, set, GO!" or BEEEEP! ?? The properly Launched/re-Launched Robot is Autonomous until you Interrupt it. ?? Every change completely outside Safety caused by the Robot stays that way. ?? Except: The Robot may change its own changes. ?? You are not allowed to cause anything to leave or even extend out of Base except by Launching/re-Launching. ?? If you accidentally propel something out of Base, that's okay to recover immediately without disturbing the Field. Therefore, extending something from base that is not attached to the robot is not allowed. On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Thomas (Tweeks) Weeks <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: Hey all.. So we were watching this video on collecting the bars for the demolition: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DxlQuRggmyg0&d=BQIFAw&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=J5fb0ELkRoh7TzAGYz99sSMvB-c7i4AC0HDT2OVPrww&m=JkD8H3l-Hia2JlX1wzoKZ9mg1rIbWn4DTDhru9NGVfI&s=7wOR9MqGurmu_7c-UbR-ssoSwkVB_t1P5W_YRldjFpw&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DxlQuRggmyg0&d=BQMFAw&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=J5fb0ELkRoh7TzAGYz99sSMvB-c7i4AC0HDT2OVPrww&m=vmjzxrz3Fl_RR5gbE-Fp5uxxxQ4ewGTRS2dKJRphCMI&s=7kspQinSo0AG_oM_0agfCMCVOpYvgvLyPXZ4Jvz0RE0&e=> (see 1:34) and were wondering.. how involved can the operator be in the deployment of a gathering gate like that? Rules state: ? You are not allowed to cause anything to leave or even extend out of Base except by Launching/re-Launching. 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