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Robot Bill <[log in to unmask]>
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+8 Points

*M04 - Sorting*

(Extract)
Black bars are (bars score independently)…
–– *Value:* 8 Per Bar part of a scoring Flower Box, or* in their original
Setup position*.
––* Value: *3 Per Bar in their matching Green Bin, or in the Landfill Bin.
–– *Value:* Minus 8 Per Bar anywhere else.
*Method Constraint:* Bars must only enter Green Bins directly from the
Sorter’s east chute or CAREERS BONUS…

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Thomas (Tweeks) Weeks <
[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I'm confused.. Are the undisturbed black bars really worth +8 points ea..
>
> or just zero (non-negative) points?
>
>
> Tweeks
> ------------------------------
> *From:* First Lego League in Virginia and DC <[log in to unmask]>
> on behalf of VA-DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 16, 2015 9:20 PM
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Re: [VADCFLL-L] Junk and Penalties
>
> Yes, if the robot doesn't touch/disturb the non-penalty Black Bars, then
> they ought to be in their original setup position, and  they are worth +8
> points each at the end of the match.  So are the Penalty object Black Bars,
> if the referee still has them.
>
> There are 12 Black Bars that are part of the Field Setup (4 in the
> building, 4 with the Referee, 2 in the Sorter's red hopper, 2 in the Large
> Package.)  Each of them will be counted during scoring.  If you don't cause
> any of them to move, then they are worth +96 total.  If all four penalties
> are assessed, and you dump the rest in a pile in Base, then they are
> probably worth -96 points total.  M04 tells you what point value each has
> based on where it is at the end of the match.
>
> Steve Scherr
> Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Bernie Goltermann <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Regarding " black pieces (non-penalty pieces) still counted (against
>> you) if they're in safety/base? Or is getting them to the landfill the only
>> way to keep them from negatively impacting your score?"
>>
>> I also see that it states under M04 – Sorting, Black bars are (bars score
>> independently)... – Value 8 Per Bar part of a scoring Flower Box, or in
>> their original Setup position.  "or in their original Setup position."
>> seems to say if you don't touch the non-penalty black pieces, they don't
>> count against you but for you. Is this right?
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* VA-DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]>
>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2015 4:14 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [VADCFLL-L] Junk and Penalties
>>
>> A Black Bar that ends up in Safety/Base may still be counted as negative
>> points during scoring.  It will be counted for negative points unless it
>> meets one of the requirements of M04 Sorting that say that it will be
>> scored as positive points.
>>
>> Steve Scherr
>> Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor
>>
>> P.S.  Two of the four ways to have Black Bars scored for positive points
>> won't be happening if they are in Safety....
>>
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