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Mon, 3 Oct 2016 10:32:03 -0400
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The topic of what does "match" mean for M04, Feeding, has come up in some
private emails, too.

Since the 8 pieces of Food are essentially indistinguishable from each
other except for color, we apply Rule GP2, Interpretation,

"If a word isn’t given a game definition, use its common conversational
meaning."

The common conversational meaning of match for the Food pieces is that they
are the same color.  You can test this by taking a handful of the Food
piece models up to people on the street and asking them to tell you which
ones match.

Bottom line:  For M04, Feeding, pieces of Food are considered to match only
if they are the same color.

So, what happens if a team's Robot operates the Refrigerator to dispense
all 8 pieces of Food, and the Robot collects all the food and Transports it
to a Target Area?
1)  The team is congratulated for having excellent robot design,
programming, and precision navigation and delivery skills
2)  Zero points for M04.

Steve Scherr
Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor


On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Bernie Goltermann <
[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> One more question on this topic.
>
> Rule: "If multiple pieces of Food are in one area, all must match each
> other.”
>
> 1. How would this scenario be scored?
>
> A. All 8 food items from the refrigerator in one target area.
>
> Matching sets of food pieces all in one target area.
>
> There's nothing in the rule saying that all food pieces must be the same
> color.
>
> Bernie Goltermann
> Coach, Assistant
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* VA-DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]>
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 1, 2016 9:29 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [VADCFLL-L] M04 Feeding missing scoring question
>
> We will apply this restriction by the area, so a pile of different colored
> food in one Target Area will not affect the score earned from Food in other
> Target Areas.
>
> As Todd noted, the Food will be loaded in random order.  How do you know
> that?  It says to do that in the Field Setup document
> REFRIGERATOR AND FOOD: Refrigerator is loaded with all 8 Food inside, in
> random order. Door is closed. o
> Rule GP5 says that the Field Setup information is just as important as the
> MIssions.
>
> Steve Scherr
> Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor
>
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Todd J Lennox <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> My reading is that you score each area separately so 20 points in the
> scenario you mention.
>
> Based on an error I made in a prior year on a mission want to make sure
> teams noted that the pieces are placed in the refrigerator in a random
> order. Don't rely on a picture from the challenge that shows them in a
> particular order.
>
> Todd Lennox
> Coach
> Capital Girls 14-15
> Think Tank
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:33 PM, Michael DeChaine <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > For the the M04 feeding mission, does the “More" requirement: "If
> multiple pieces of Food are in one area, all must match each other.” apply
> to each individual area or the whole field?
> >
> > For example, if there are:
> >
> >    • Area 1: two red pieces of food, and
> >    • Area 2: a blue piece of food and a white piece of food,
> >
> > Does that score:
> >
> >    • 20 total point: 20 points for the two matching foods in area 1 and
> zero points because Area 2 does not meet the “More" requirement, or
> >    • Zero total points because of the missing “More” requirement from
> Area 2 also prevents any points from Area 1?
> >
> > I’d argue for the 20 total points position, but I could see it going
> either way.  Thanks!
> >
> > - Michael DeChaine
> >
> > Rookie coach: RoboTeam 2000
>
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