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Yes. It is basically a gimme.

On Wednesday, November 12, 2014, Hal Swetnam <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> So am I reading update #7 correctly? The minifigs can be attached at any
> time (before the match starts?) and must simply be in base and visible to
> the judges for the team to score the 20 pts?
>
> 7 – APPRENTICESHIP
> You arrive at the table with your Apprenticeship model already built. You
> may add the people to it by hand, any time, including prematch
> setup. Just by having the model in view of the referee (in Base or any
> other Rule 35 storage area) you get 20 points. To get 35
> points instead, bind the people to it, and have the robot place
>
> Brick Bandits
>
>
> On Nov 10, 2014, at 3:17 PM, Stephen Scherr <[log in to unmask]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);>> wrote:
>
> Yes, I am saying exactly that.  Your team doesn't need any people at all
> to earn 20 points, but must sacrifice the 2 seconds needed to attach the
> table-supplied people from Base in order to earn 35 points.
>
> Your team may bring as many Star Wars, Harry Potter, and other general
> LEGO people as they want, as long as they aren't the same as the two in
> Base.  The update says "... if they aren't duplicates of this year's
> mission model people."  So no--you may not bring the two people from your
> field kit to the table.
>
> Steve
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Hal Swetnam <[log in to unmask]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);>> wrote:
>
>> Hi there
>> just trying to figure out the rules on Apprenticeship.  Are you saying
>> that to get the full 35 points the team has to use the mini figures
>> provided by the tournament? I thought they could bring their own? Is it a
>> matter of getting full points?
>> Thanks for any clarification.  Here was the latest update we saw:
>>
>> 30 – APPRENTICESHIP PEOPLE, WHITE CIRCLE Update 25 was meant to remind
>> you about Rule 18, Exception 2. You ARE allowed to arrive with people as
>> part of your model, if they aren’t duplicates of this year’s mission model
>> people. (Clarification of Update 25) Of the two interpretations of what
>> could be meant by “white circle,” area vs perimeter, the area is what
>> matters. So if your model ends up touching only the interior, and not the
>> edge, that’s okay. (Apprenticeship clarification)
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> The Brick Bandits
>>
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2014, at 11:32 PM, VA-DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);>> wrote:
>>
>> We had 8 FLL tournaments in Virginia this weekend, and it looks like
>> teams had a great time.  I know that the referees were impressed at all the
>> creative solutions teams found to accomplish their selected missions, and
>> I've heard good things from the judges too.  I hope that the week 1
>> activity during core values judging helped to raise everyone's expectations!
>>
>> There a few things that surprised some teams at the robot game tables,
>> that I would like to give teams a heads-up about.
>>
>> First a reminder--don't trust any pictures or video unless the text of
>> the Robot Game agrees with them.  According to Rule 5:
>>
>> "When there is conflict between pictures/videos and text, the text takes
>> precedence!"
>>
>> 1)  Engagement mission setup
>>     According to the Field Setup, and Game Update 5, the engagement
>> pinwheel setup is with its red arm up.  (That means that the main body of
>> the arm points straight up.)  Both pictures on pages 10 and 29 are
>> incorrect.
>>
>> 2)  Bouncing the Sports Ball
>>     Teams at several tournaments discovered that the blue ball may not
>> bounce the same on competition or practice tables as it does on the table
>> that they practiced on.  I know that at some tournaments, there was a
>> mixture of behaviors among both the competition and practice tables.  We're
>> sorry about this unexpected behavior, but it is covered by Rule 4,
>> Variability, and no team will know what to expect until they get to the
>> table.
>>
>> 3)  Ramming the Door
>>     As described in the mission and rules, the team doesn't get points
>> for opening the door by ramming it and breaking it.  You must push down on
>> the handle to allow the door to open.
>>
>> 4)  Loop in the Senses mission
>>     Update 32 was a little too subtle about the loop in the Using the
>> Right Senses mission.  The mission requirement is that the loop is
>> "released" only by pushing the slider.  The update says not to expect the
>> the loop will be "ejected" by using the slider.  The update is also trying
>> to say that "release" means "to allow to be moved or taken", so, once your
>> robot pushes the slider to lift the weight out of the way, the robot is
>> allowed to remove the loop from the model.
>>
>> 5)  Reverse Engineering--making the original model during setup
>>     Your team is required to build an original model out of all 6 pieces
>> when they get to the table, even if they don't plan to do the Reverse
>> Engineering.  See the Field Setup, and Updates 14 and 24.  The two Robot
>> Handlers are the only ones allowed to build the model.   Being prepared for
>> this is part of being a Gracious Professional.
>>
>> 6)  Apprenticeship--try it out!
>>     If your team isn't doing the Apprenticeship mission, they really
>> should take a look at Update 7
>>
>> 7)  Apprenticeship People
>>     As discussed earlier today, your team is required to use the people
>> at the table in order to score full points on the Apprenticeship mission.
>>
>> 8)  Kidnapping
>>     Please be careful, both at the competition tables and the practice
>> tables, that you don't take any mission models, such as the people or the
>> blue ball.  If you discover them, take them back immediately.  Removing
>> them hurts other teams, and thus is against Gracious Professionalism.
>>     You shouldn't bring the Apprenticeship people from your practice kit,
>> and you should avoid bringing any blue balls, if at all possible.
>> Tournament volunteers will think that they belong to the tournament kits,
>> and will ask you to hand them over.
>>
>> Best wishes to all FLL teams in the upcoming weeks!
>>
>> Steve Scherr
>> Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor
>>
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