I love that diagram TR, I didn't know you posted so much on Medium. I'll
have to check out more of your writing, I just started putting a few essays
up on it within the last 2 months or so. Anyways I totally agree with your
connection of my thinking here to the postmodern thread, and I appreciate
you pointing it out because it helps me organize my own articulations.

As your diagram purports, but in the words of Alan Watts, "Existence *is*
relationship and you are smack in the middle of it."
Regards,

Nicholas G. Lattanzio, Psy.D.


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> Lee
> I would say all of the above.
>
> And as far as distinctions I would say yes.
> Such as reactance, awareness, consciousness, self-awareness, then what?
> Being clear about this helps relating the hierarchical modes of being.
> Nature may have spirit but does it, or say a tree, have psyche which I
> connect to the subjective; I do not believe so and for this reason do not
> believe in panpsychism - though I do believe in Universal Mind as the
> objective ground state of being.
> Same thing with consciousness (with-knowledge) where folks are speaking of
> it as being a primary constituent of the Universe, or as the ground of
> being. I would differentiate it from Mind where Mind is the medium for
> change (waveform) and differentiation (space), and consciousness is the
> perception of qualia (the harmonics of change and relationship) which
> allows for being not simply material existence.
> That is as much that I can say over lunch.
> All the best
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>> Tim,
>> Thanks for sharing this totally cool graphic.
>>
>> It helps me better understand the distinction between “what there is” and
>> the taxonomy, classification, and labels we give to various subsets, and
>> collections of all there is.
>> I described what I understand as “what there is” at: What there is
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>> But we can choose to organize all that there is in many (consistent) ways.
>> For example, we can describe quarks, atoms, molecules, amino acids,
>> proteins, neurons, synapses, nervous systems, brain, and mind.
>> Gregg makes useful distinctions by subdividing mind into mind1, mind2,
>> and mind 3.
>>
>> Does your graphic primarily illustrate 1) What there is, 2) A taxonomy,
>> 3) A categorization, 4) a vocabulary, 5) All of these?
>> In what ways is it useful to draw distinctions between mind, psyche,
>> soul, spirit, and consciousness?
>> In what ways is it useful to emphasize their similarities?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Lee Beaumont
>>
>>
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>> I was looking into this last year so my 2 cents would be that mind,
>> psyche, soul, spirit, and consciousness are used to some extent
>> interchangeably in reference to our personal frame as well as the larger
>> sphere of universal mind or substrate and it would be marvelous to have a
>> greater differentiation and hierarchy between the personal and the
>> universal. This is even more relevant as discussion of panpsychism and
>> monism develops further; whether you could get consensus on this is another
>> thing. Personally I would reserve consciousness to discussion of process,
>> psyche to discussing the personal, and mind to that considered universal or
>> the substrate of mind from which consciousness develops into or as
>> personnel psyches. Spirit I would reserve for the motive force of life, and
>> soul possibly for that part which returns back into universal mind. This
>> should relate to notions of “the great chain of being” and any metaphysics
>> which connects being and life up through physics of the the explicate order
>> into the implicate order and source at the highest level where I place
>> Mind.
>>
>> Really glad you are working on this.
>>
>> This is what I have been working on partially related to this.
>>
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>>> Hi TOK Folks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   I welcome any thoughts or references people have regarding the framing
>>> of the “psyche.”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Let me share some recent developments in my thinking. Over the last
>>> year, I have been developing a language system that allows me to entangle
>>> and weave this concept into UTOK in a way that is really starting to “hum”.
>>> A few months ago, I did this blog
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>>> which is, I think the first blog I did that explicitly starts to frame the
>>> human psyche from the UTOK language game.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I will say that since this blog, I added some details not included here.
>>> So, currently in my working this out, there is the “Vital layer” which is
>>> the core animal-body connection. That is listed here as “the body,” and it
>>> corresponds, in our phylogenetic history, to the emergence of animals in
>>> the Cambrian explosion and the way the nervous system functions to move the
>>> body as a whole and is guided by the “base of sentience,” which is a
>>> sensory-motor loop that is organized by pleasure and pain. The experience
>>> of pleasure and pain are the base of Mind2 in the Map of Mind.  More
>>> recently, I have been adding another layer, consistent with this blog
>>> on the evolution of consciousness
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>>> the inner mind’s eye that connects to working memory and includes the basic
>>> witness function. To use John V’s framing, this inner minds eye has an
>>> adverbial framing function that affords the experience of adjectival
>>> qualia. If we decide to stay with this as one layer, we can still consider
>>> this the base of the psyche that has animal body / mammal perceptual
>>> experiential aspects.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Then we move to the primate heart. This is the self-other matrix,
>>> grounded in attachment, but emerges as an implicit intersubjective field,
>>> the process dimensions mapped by the Influence Matrix. As Tomasello shows,
>>> we are unique great apes in this way, forming shared
>>> intentional-attentional we spaces, and this is prior to language.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Then we get to the head, which I call “mind” in the colloquial sense in
>>> the blog above, but I prefer head, as this ontological domain is not the
>>> right referent for mind in the UTOK language system. Anyway, the head
>>> consists of two streams. First, there is the projected extension of
>>> perceptual reasoning across long periods of time. Second, there is the ego
>>> narrator that gets socialized on the Person-Culture plane of existence.
>>> Folks that do intelligence testing will recognize these two streams as
>>> Verbal Comprehension and Perceptual Reasoning
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Last, there is the trans-justificatory, trans-egoic, transcendent
>>> spiritual aspect.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Note, although it is a different map-legend of the terrain, this picture
>>> merged well with Zak Stein’s work on his metapsychology and the three major
>>> domains of the psyche (skill development, ensoulment, transcendence) as was
>>> seen in the series he did with John and me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Finally, what has been clicking for me, is a bridging function between
>>> the iQuad Coin and what it does for/how it frames the psyche, and the Tree
>>> of Knowledge System, which is a natural science view of the world. And so,
>>> I am now starting to weave together the way the ToK System maps animal into
>>> human mental behavior from a third person scientific empirical view and the
>>> iQuad Coin frames the idiographic architecture of the first person
>>> empirical perspective of the unique individual situated in the real. So,
>>> via this depiction, we can see the ToK System mapping mental behavior from
>>> the scientific language game, and the iQuad coin mapping the specific
>>> individual situated in their particular epistemic reality. That is, mental
>>> behavior in general and the human psyche in particular can now be placed in
>>> proper relation.
>>>
>>>  <image001.png>
>>>
>> Seems like another step on effectively solving the problem of psychology.
>>> Would love to know what others think and welcome references to the psyche
>>> that others think might be valuable.
>>>
>>>
>>> Warm regards to all,
>>>
>>> Gregg
>>>
>>>
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