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First Lego League in Virginia and DC <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 29 Aug 2019 21:40:12 -0400
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For Pat's example, his picture shows 2 adjacent stacks (tan and red) each 8
Levels high in the red circle, with a Mission 13 Upgrade on top of both
stacks.
The Upgrade does not force the stacks to combine into a single stack.  It
would have to be a Building Unit in order for that to happen.

Mission 12 scores like this:
10 points for the red Level 1 unit Completely in the Red Circle and Flat
Down on the Mat
80 points for the combined heights of 16 from the red stack and the tan
stack (each 8 high)

The interesting thing is Mission 13 and the Upgrade.
The Upgrade is Supported by the pair of stacks.  The special definition of
Supported in Rule 34 says that 100% of its weight is held up and kept from
falling.
Mission 13 requires that the Upgrade is "Supported by a Stack" which is at
least partly in a circle.  Both the tan stack and the red stack are
Completely In the red circle, so that's okay.

I would typically read the scoring criteria as saying that "a Stack" means
a single Stack holding up the entire weight of the Upgrade.  If I could
determine that the Red stack was not bearing any of the weight, or if the
team members could present a case that raised enough doubt in my mind about
the meaning of the Mission criteria, then I would count the Upgrade (10
points).  Otherwise, I probably would not count the Upgrade.  Different
referees could see this differently.  In any case, the upgrade can only be
counted once, since it cannot have 100% of its weight Supported by two
separate Stacks.

Steve Scherr
Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor



On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 11:08 AM McFadden, Pat <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> We have been asking questions about that challenge also...
>
> Attached are my communications (with pictures).
>
> Regards,
> Pat McFadden
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: First Lego League in Virginia and DC <[log in to unmask]>
> On Behalf Of Patrick N
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 10:48 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [VADCFLL-L] Question on Mission 12 Design & build
>
> Hello, our team members have different interpretations for the scoring
> with respect to the Figure 3, Mission 12 Design and build, Game guide.
>
> Color match = red
> Red stack = 2 levels
> Other stack = 4 levels
> 40 points shown
>
> For the other stack scoring, some feel that it should be 7 levels ( 3
> white, 1 blue and 3 tan), whereas some feel that it should be 4 since the
> blue is shared across the white & tan stacks, which makes the stacks "not
> independent".  I agree with the later interpretation, but wanted to be
> sure. Any clarifications would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
>

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